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What is benefit of switching to 2hs from dw?

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by MetaFlux, Jun 19, 2020.

  1. MetaFlux

    MetaFlux Well-Known Member

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    As title suggests what are benefits.
    I am talking about no holds bar builds on both sides.
    Everything 2s elements against elem and so on.
    So what are the actual benefits.
    The only benefit i could think of is meteor being an aoe skill thats all.
    But my pov could be skewed so feel free to drop benefits.
     
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    more invulnerable skill.
     
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    Enchanted Sword. No need to bring 6 ohs anymore.
     
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    well if i had to say - 2h has better survivability , i mean u can focus on survival also as u already using 2s ele equips and it has buster blade which never misses and its use we saw on pyxtica where most classes felt a bit helpless and also 2h has best critical rate among all classes imo and due to its main damaging skill i.e. meteor being invincible and aoe makes it more versatile
     
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    Is that so ? Have you ever used dw there are 3 skills that grant immunity or i frames and 1 skill to nullify death to a degree.
    1 skill to parry.
     
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    You have the option to increase durability without losing much atk. More forgiving for mistakes.
    15% atk warcry buff. :/
    2h pot is usually higher than ohs, so u can obtain more stats.
     
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    DW enchant with reaper does more dmg genious *sigh*

    2hs sword is not actually more durable than dw durability is defined by how many invincible and parry skills you have rather than how much dmg you can take and how much eb you can waste.
    Currently the max pot of 2hs is 1 point higher thats all.
    15% warcry is not much effective since it only last 24 secs.
    Gimme a point that actually has pure benefit.
     
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    So u said tank has no better durability than your dw? Interesting...
     
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    2h has more critical rate, can inflict dizzy with meteor breaker as main dps which is good against high diff boss that evades too much, can better support pt with warcry which gives more atk, and you can get higher hp by putting some stats on vit without decreasing your damage too much(this is helpful on the first runs on new bosses when you haven't memorized the boss attack pattern yet and will inevitably get hit by attacks, 2h with vit can survive those new boss on the first runs better), and buster blade for super critical resist bosses. Basically 2h is good all around character that every party needs, especially the 5% extra atk from warcry and dizzy ailment.
     
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    Duh if only thing being durable meant how much dmg u can take and live then everyone would be stuffing points in vit and calling themselves durable.
     
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    It is...
    For ppl who have lacking gadget or slow hand
    We can't force our playstyle to other ppl.
     
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    So critical rate and meteor being aoe are only 2 so far 5% extra attack is also good but i wont consider it benefit since its duration is very minimal.
    Edit: a very strong buster as well.
     
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    2h has more brute damage and less need of CRIT equips (Berserk <3)
    DW is a DPS with many tools to Avoid damage while doing Damage.

    That's kinda it honestly..
     
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    Dual wielder have better survivability with shadow step, cross parry, and phantom slash. The advantages of 2h sword I could think of is a higher raw damage with extra scalability, proto clarity rose will get outdated so that pierce advantage will get less and less prominent, the raw base atk of 2h will be great to have. On cost standpoint though, DW still have the edge of cheap elemental advantage, compared to 2handed sword which would be pricey to get all of the elemental weapons. Then buster blade have a sure crit which usually isn't used on a DW build, for bosses like pyxtica you can use it to bypass crit resist. The next one would be the ability to make a 2 in 1 build in semi tank and a pure damage dealer, simply by switching to one handed sword shield and sparing some sp to get p. Def. You can use flat hp gears to boost your hp. Overall I don't think we've reached the point where proto clarity is underpowered for high def bosses, so DW is still better as a complete package.


    Another advantage of a 2h character is that you would have a strong mercenary
     
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    I said something about equipment slot tho... And Storm Reaper 'only' giving 100% srd. Storm Reaper animation isn't fast either and you need one or two second to reach the boss again. E. Sword with 2hs gives an extra +2 multiplier and 100 critical rates.
     
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    Why would i use enchant in first place.
    Do u know that reaper also does insane dmg with boosted enchant ur doing more dmg regardless.
     
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    I think he didn't read the "no hold bars" part... Elemental meteor breaker deals way more dmg and has faster animation than enchant, while being aoe and having an Iframe and chance to inflict dizzy. Enchant "advantage" is having elemental advantage, which become pointless if user can afford elemental weapons.
     
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    1. 2hs have innate faster auto atk animation, super easy to do & doesnt require extra efforts to make it easier.

    2. Swift attack effect can be used by 2h. Which we can use it to substitute impact on tumble reactive bossess w/o changing gear setup. Or just use it as prorator on short combo (swift attck-meteor-impact).

    3. 2h also have guard & can get access to evasion by changing armor model. Which can be used when i run out of evasion charges or want to mitigate some dmg, dw also hv parry which more or less have the same utility but parry have physical proration & guard doesnt. (I know that we can get access to guard too if we change armor to heavy model, but i dont think dw will change their armor model to heavy, except maybe for aesthethic purpose)
     
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    There are only 3 real advantages of 2h over DW for me.
    1. Buster Blade autocrit - Though this is only a benefit on a handful bosses
    2. Dizzy from Meteor. Dizzy halves the evasion chance of bosses and is especially useful for hdf bosses or other bosses like Ornlarf.
    3. I-frame on your main dps skill. If you are not the one to pay much attention to boss mechanics you can just spam your mb combo and hope you get lucky with the i-frames.
     
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    @MetaFlux Don't switch to 2h, you need that dw for those solo videos, since it has a higher survival rate, instead turn your 1h fu to 2h. ^_^
     
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    From kirito become benimaru.

    Both still is DPS , just 2h can saved more SP compare to DW and you got powerful aoe skill.
     

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