When you get ATK rank as a knuck!

I was in a party of fus (130, and two 150s) so i was mostly breaking, but after 2 rounds i started to get attacker rank the rest of the way while fighting zahhak and they got mega pissed at me

 

Is there a staff fu using 5mp impact chariot maximizer? If this build goes well...

 

Zahhak is really where pure brawlers shine. Other classes’ spam just adds to the super high auto attack damage that we can deal on Zahhak, and our high stability on chariot makes it reliable after enough proration.

Why would they even get mad though? I figured those players should be glad for the nice assists and fast runs. Were you the one tanking too?

 

They got pissed bc they felt that just bc i was getting attkr rank, i was spamming, which in reality, my autos outweighed my skills. I tanked pretty much most of the time due to chakra use.

 

I saw one in event, L150 chariot spammer. And L90+ HB destroyed it.

 

Sorry newbie here, does knuckle isn't allowed to get attacker rank? Is it impolite/rude to get that?
Only lvl 39 so i didnt really know the rules lol, and btw if i want to get balance between survivability and good dps which guide should i follow?
Thanks and godspeed~

 

It's not about nt allowed or allowed, it's just really difficult since Knuckle got a really low attack and damage compare to other classes

 

It depends. Opening with buff wont activate quickdraw(if he use it).

 

Looks like my thought of any 1mp skill will activate quickdraw is wrong, back to the skills thread then

Any class are allowed to take attacker rank, but brawlers have weaker base atk so its shunned by everyone like real world racist problems (talking racisim isnt allowed in this forums so use your imagination)

If they get mad at you just ignore their stinking bloody 'tryhard' and 'alpha male' attitude. Fook them all

But a concern is: if you're a brawler u most likely will get breaker rank soo taking 2 or more ranks is best avoided for 'ettiquete' purposes. Everyone gets bonus drops everyone is happy mmkay?

Best dps and survibility? Mage and snipers, but they have one of the lowest dps at lv70 skills. At lv150 they are king.

For lv70 skills the kings of dps but bad survibility (because melee and no shield) is katana, halberd then 2h from strongest to weakest. But they all will lose attacker if a lv150 skill user comes by, even by the 'lowly brawlers'

 

Thanks for kind replies!
Emm im looking for Knuckle/Brawler guide for dps and survivebility though, currently im dumping it all on agi and using high-tier failed craft after camping in consignment board lol.
At first it was fine, but after meeting bosses with magic attack (like burn) things started to get chaotic lol. Kinda looking for focusing on dps but have enough to survive in battle kind of build i guess.

 

To reinforce on 'survivability', shield or without shield have little difference since the DEF stat has little impact on survival. Refined shield at +E also just gives 10% resistance so its your choice

There is no at first or no first in suvivability, you are not meant to take dmg from bosses at all lol. Learn them attack patterns and avoid them since you're not a tank.

Dps brawler at lv70 skills? Sorry to burst the bubble but for 2-3 whole good years brawlers cant even reach 70% of the weakest dps class's damage, this made brawlers seemed 'useless' hence the hate. Yes you could play around with game mechanics but other classes are simply stronger (can u outrun Usain Bolt? Its simply talent vs hard-work here)

Brawlers gained a lot more footing at lv150 skills but its still weaker than hybrid builds like fus. Still any class can take attacker if you play to your class's strength, brawler's strength is high auto attack dmg against Zahhak and high chariot multiplier.

Btw, shield knuck is the best but i lieks knuck dagger. Moar 'pak pak pak' sounds gives me pleasure

 

Yeah i noticed the knuckle's dilemma after browsing lot lol, but still i chooses da fist cause i like it not for the pure big long and hard damage
Hmm i tried shield but it seems too big and bulky for vanity purpose so i want to choose dagger in that regards~
Btw does using dagger really change the sfx? It'll be a real big plus for me!

 

Yeah brawlers in a party is best at proration support with the fastest auto attack animation ingame.

Be aware that dagger bonuses are iffy at best, but hidden arm and mail breaker grants high chance for the breaker rank so its all good

About the sfx, its just an extra 'pok' from the hidden arm skill and some aggregavate proc. Still music to my ears nontheless

 

Ahh dagger skills eh,
Hmm thats interesting does hidden arm proc ampr aswell? Im weighing between hidden arm and shukuchi from katana now. Orz

 

Pretty sure our discussion isnt related to the thread ages ago lol

Get both obviously, if lacking sp shukuchi is better. Teleporting bosses like pg and td will give u heart attacks w/o shukuchi, also hidden arm is bonus breaker rank points anyway.

Check the ampr in the skills thread, but currently Mayam-sama havent updated dagger skills soo maybe u can ask? But please never ever force or rush our lord and savior in his work, may his blessings be bestowed with time. Orz

 

Oshi... Im sorry OP, my noobness gets the better of me m(_ _)m
@ingame778 thanks for lots of juicy info, frankly im still fraid to build my skills, mainly bcause the costly orb if i screwed up lol, but ill try to manage
OT: ill be sure to post any salt pic if i could somehow outdps other sharp weapons lol

 

Burn or ignite deal damage based on your current hp. At max hp, total ignite dmg is 45% of your max hp.
For survivability against magic dmg, either increase int (+mdef, but int is not good for brawler) or just boost your hp by vit or other means.

 

Think about brawlers as semi-tank, semi-DPS. It’s an overall balanced class that can prorate well and stunlock things (either manually dodge or interrupt at the right time — can’t take damage if the attack doesn’t go through, right?) It’s not the type of tank where you can just lazily sit through all attacks without moving. Though if you went full tank (max vit, shield based with Perfect Defense and Guardian/Sanctuary), you could. You can invest in HP boost from survival skills alongside a couple points of vit, since the HP bonus from vit increases as you level.

Brawlers do well in both solo play with mercs (although bosses may take longer to kill) and party play. A plus is that you can easily break parts for increased exp.

Also, always remember that it’s a combination of stats/build, gear, and playstyle. Good enough agi brawlers can outcompete or balance with Fu builds. As for your Shukuchi vs hidden arm/dagger skills question — go invest at least one point into Shukuchi. It eliminates brawlers’ weakness of having a 2m attack range and having to chase fast-moving bosses... Higher levels of Shukuchi increase the amount of MP recovered per dash, up to +25.

Lol, brawler strengths are only these? You’re overexaggerating. While it is a plus, it doesn’t make sense to list this as a general strength because Zahhak doesn’t even come into play until late game. And there are other skills besides Chariot...

I would say alongside the whole semi-tank/semi-DPS purpose of brawlers, another natural strength would be the extremely high ASPD, motion speed, and AMPR that the class can achieve. Knuckles has one of the fastest auto attack animations, and thanks to skills like aggravate/strong chase, it can easily attack multiple times a second while inflicting armor break. The motion speed plays a huge role in making sure interrupts land at the right time — missing an interrupt by a couple of milliseconds or dying because of slow animation suuucks.

It’s been a perfectly good class before Tier 4 skills. Chariot and Rush do add a nice damage/additional effects bonus, but it’s not as if brawler was unplayable lmao. Just takes a specific mindset to appreciate (aka one not obsessed with huge numbers of burst damage — go for something like halberd, katana, or 2H for that).

 

Is it Yuna-Bear?

Although toram official say knuc is easy to use, but in late game knuc require much more skill from player to manage proration, lock boss, break skill, and avoid deadly damage.

 

Kuma! I mainly choose knuckle bcause i wanna bear suit y'know *kuma punch!*

Yeah im feeling much more headache allocating skills for knuckle comparing to other weapon IMO, owell experiment is da best way i guess