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why everyone just thirst of power equipment?

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Ru°, May 27, 2018.

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  1. Asatu

    Asatu Well-Known Member

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    Dude please, just farm that big goat (mino) and buy cheap armor with iconos, the cos varied but you can find some secondhand +13 with 2~4mil spina (check cb again for valid number)
    And buy machina ring (<2mil) and put some +hp if you cant buy deniala yet.

    Poor player that DONT WANT TO MAKE MONEY is not the same with poor player IN THE MAKING OF MORE MONEY THROUGH ACTION.
     
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    Asatu Well-Known Member

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    If theyre newbies, why do you expect them to have proper gears?
    Just let them be.
     
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    Is why I said every dps are responsible for their own life... QuQ

    I just want to point out to that the main point about how "people going for full crits as best gear stats" is actually a result of how badly the alternative stats for these equips are. The only stats available are atk, stats, and crits... since the other stats are just awful in their number, being: +HP limited to 7% which is sad and +DEF/MDEF which is pointless due to above 250 being diminished.

    So please don't blame poor crits gears, those gears did nothing wrong... the players did. ._.
     
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    Just gonna leave this here just in case debates happen

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    Sadly the biggest baddest and meatiest problem is the people who jump from clas to class in search of the one true dps warrior
    They like seeing big numbers and imitate the builds but fail to consider how strong bosses can be
    Especially outside of normal

    And even more so if you're trying to do gemruns

    Its the players fault for that really and all you can do is preach and get told to shut up

    Just let them die and mock them for dying

    Best way to teach them and for them to know weakness
     
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    There's no debate here, I am defending poor crits gear being blamed for the players fault! Crits gear did nothing wrong, they're good! owo)b
    These players that dies easily are just scrubs that will die even if they go full tank gears anyway.
     
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    That's why I set up papa franku as a barrier just in case xD

    Crit gears make us stronk
     
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    the point is why you go full damage even u cant survive 1 hit from bos
     
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    Because theres no stats for the gear that actually makes you survive the hits...
    Xtals, refines, and vits are the only option for dps, if they got 1 VIT fully knowing they will die in 1 hit then its their fault not the gear's. 0w<)b
     
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    I thought about this but isn't surviving your own responsibility? No offense tho

    It's fine to rant but sometimes we need to control ourselves T~T
     
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    i m not go on full power or tank but at last i m not die just 1 hit from it. the balmeing is cuz new player all get doctrine on tell the best gear CCCC. they not even think how much they need to get them. so lot newbies just think how to get more and more damage. without think how they can survive on the run.
     
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    Let them learn the hard way, after dying lots of time I'm sure they will come to realization that they probably need to get the lv 10 HP Boost, a casual 20 VIT, and farming roga/iconos. 0w<)b
    It's not like they have to sell their crits gear, they just need to adds up some meatwall.

    #DontBlameCritsGear #CritsGearLivesMatter
     
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    if you do solo answer is yes
    but when you go on pt. responsibility no on just your own.
    Q: why you die fast. how you pt member through this if the dps even cant survive 1 hit from bos.
    Q: you do lot damage but you die! then where the damage?
    Q: if you run full dps mamber and all have thin survival gear. and get whip 1 hit aoe bos. how you blame ?

    they dont even ever think this. cuz all just say more and more damage are the best
     
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    Tell them they're not gud enough for the cool kids party and they should learn how to survive first if they want to join the cool kids, then kick them. XD
     
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    Then we better start telling them "Hey you! Don't die or else I'll kill your family"
    That might make them die less or be skillful
    Also you're not responsible for their deaths, they are (unless you're a tank that is)
     
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    Ru they're not dying because of the gear btw

    Its their stat and refines on gear or xtal choice

    There's players who skip out on some helpful xtal like Deniala for goovua or whatever else they want
    Because more damage is good(to them)

    They don't put anything on vit stat and don't choose xtal with hp buff (like the sacred Deniala)
     
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    lol, I used to be like that too. I used to hate full-crit builds because I thought that they completely destroyed the class system and made all of the classes the exact same thing, but with a few slight differences.

    I eventually decided to try a full-crit build, and I was amazed at how much higher my dps was. Not only was I able to do much more damage, but since I had a high crit rate I didn't have to put any DEX into some of my builds, so I could go full STR or full AGI without having to worry about hitting my target.

    It is true that crit being the best does lower your character's customizability since the armor and weapon are practically the same thing, while its also best the equip a gothic hat for extra crit, and for archers, the arrow you equip is just the one with the proper element. Even though there isn't much customization in equipment, your stats, skills, and combos still have a lot of freedom.

    Since you can't really do much in terms of equipment, you can just compensate for it by doing things like spending a few points on VIT (I usually go for 10%), or getting skills like arm break so you can inflict lethargy on your target so they do less damage. Sub-weapons are also a good way to customize your classes function. Bows, in your case, can equip katanas (as you already know) which allow you to use magadach and zantei, or you could also use a bowgun as your primary and use a knuckle or shield as a sub.
     
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    lot af them cant accept the fact
     
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    Focusing solely on power may be good, that is if you can compensate for it. Speaking of which, players like D.Song don't focus much on power but on the character's ability to solo bosses without using revitas.

    Anyways, for the most part it's just for the petty pride some people have and wants to brag, but there is also that feeling of accomplishment you get once you successfully dealt that huge damage you always admired. But still, personally, I kinda regret I've chosen the wrong path to start.
     
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    i dont have vit stat.
    i dont have any extal
    add gear potum helm
    armor drop from tapir
    at last i can survive cuz the gear i use
     
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