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ninja skills are here

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Red_Fox, Apr 22, 2021.

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  1. mc2lau

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    Can ninja skills be used with 2h?
     
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    can, but only ninjutsu.
     
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    i need someone to create the same scroll with the same type of weapons in the same order :v

    better if they test with stronger weapons

    and i need to test it but, i think weap atk gives better (?/?) values
    ill test that after i lvlup my ninja
    edit: maybe slot in weapons also increase the (?/?) value?
     
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    soo...
    weap atk affects the scroll
    if you use low atk weapons you get 60~ atk at max
    but level also affect the scrolls.

    if you are a lv1 ninja and use 3 high attack weap you get a low attack scroll (your level is low).
    if you are a lv 160 ninja and use 3 high attack weap you get a 170~ scroll.
    if you are a lv 160 ninja and use 3 low attack weap you get a 60~ attack scroll.
    edit:when creating a scroll you can get a scroll with low attack even if you are high lv and using good weap (the same when creating normal weap, you can get low attack weapon), idk if anything change that chance of getting low attack on scrolls.

    and yeah each weap combination in scroll creation makes a "random" scroll.
    if you use the same weap type and order you get the same scrolls skill, but if you change position of 1 weap it will get 3 new skills.
    i tested with high attack weap and i got the same skills!
    my best scroll until now is [staff]-[halberd]-[katana]
    and that gets you this scroll:
    cloning
    demon wind shuriken
    thunder release

    let me know if it changes (maybe each day/week/month it can change)
     
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    So, ninja skills cannot be grazed? Like magic?
     
  6. Kaisyl

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    Hey, the clone, if you use decoy shot and the clone is at the enemy, will it become decoy at the normal area or at the clone area?
     
  7. 《《MiLo》》

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    At the clone place. The decoy will also change to clone if you cast Cloning again
     
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    What factors determined the damage of ninjutsu? Scroll ATK? Weapon ATK? MATK? ATK?
     
  9. 《《MiLo》》

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    Scroll ATK seems to give a base damage bonus. Weapon ATK contributes to ATK/MATK, so it's out of the question. About ATK/MATK, you can see here
    or simply reread the thread
     
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    I'm kinda interested in the mechanics more. Used Wind quite a lot for testing, sometimes char jumps/dashes while using skill but I can't seem to understand the conditions, bug or it should be like that, lol.
    Also yes, so far i crafted like 30 scrolls from nena drops, all are 110-200 atk with 3/0.6 and 1/1.0 being the highest.
    Also theres a google sheet with scroll combinations already available
     
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    Link to spreadsheet?
     
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    Jumps if you aren't using movement trackpad.
    Dash if you're using movement trackpad, followed by a jump if you dash into your attack range around the main target.
     
  14. Rizer phoenix

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    While considered suitable with ktn, 1h, etc(aside from fact that with phy build its easy crit),
    Have the skills been tested with a dps mage char?
    How are they without crit?
    As in, can they..perhaps replace burst (when using non-dte equips, without any crit?)
    [Considering burst with said equips deals bout 400-500k+ dmg]
     
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    Do you realise one can use .... Different scrolls?
    Wind release for High Evasion mobs, Aqua Vortex for Low Evasion mobs, and with continuously increasing INT stat, Storm gets better and better day by day.

    You can substitute in Thunder Release scroll when you're in a Boss fight, and I've seen it do good damage~

    Also, (3/0.6) scrolls are rare, and probably expensive.
     
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    Water Release + Kunai rapid vortex chance does not appear to be 100% without ninjutsu drill passives.

    Cloning + Decoy on magic user does not cause clone shukuchi.

    Not sure if demon wind shuriken has matk scaling.

    Not sure if 0 MP Kunai can be used for combo opener.

    Fire release damage is weak tho guaranteed ignite might be useful for some bosses to reduce resistances.

    Earth release damage reduction, how much is it? It seems terrible imo.

    Thunder release and wind release do not appear to have good compatibility with ranged skill users.

    Using ninja skills on magic device does not appear to have much significant benefit with the exception of clone + decoy which allows easy clone repositioning. On staff, everything else is better for the apparent moment.

    All in all, with regards to magic users, there is no reason to take these skills.
     
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  18. Rizer phoenix

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    Thank you!
    You saved me rush lvling my mage to 225 for extra sp xD
     
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    Oh, just to update,

    Rapid aqua vortex activates with kunai when outside a combo.
     
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    What element is "metal" scroll? We have one of each element except light. But, "metal" doesn't sound light-based; more neutral.

    Also, do the insividual skills have elemental affinity, or is it appplicable only to the scroll type? if each each individual skill has elemental afinity, what element would be "lightning"? 'Light'-ning? Or neutral?

    What's the highest -mana and -cast time you've seen on a scroll?
     
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