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Magic Ninja Farmer

Discussion in 'Mage' started by Razielle, Apr 26, 2021.

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  1. Razielle

    Razielle Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys. I don't know why I'm posting this, since I was away from toram for more than 6 months but I guess I got bored of work and irl so I got back to toram, pom.
    I've seen a few ninjas here and there, farming with staffs because they all saw a youtube video and was feeling salty.

    WHY DO YOU USE STAFF?

    I mean, staff has smaller range and stuff, especially for ninja, so here we go.
    I spent 5m spina to test things out, considering different kinds of skills and equips, so I hope you won't throw slippers at me.

    This build is dirt cheap, but effective. Very effective.

    So the key points are:
    1) You need a ninjutsu scroll (well duuh);
    2) You need a good ninjutsu scroll (seriously);
    3) Ok, so I mentioned the scroll above huh, also you need ~700+ cspd depending on your scroll.

    To not annoy you with a lot of plain text, I'll just provide screenshots (yay, I'm so kind):
    This is how my stats look
    Screenshot_2021-04-26-21-07-13-406_com.asobimo.toramonline.jpg
    The equipment I'm using
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    Pretty standard equip, nothing too special if you consider the fact, that I already had a Luk mage farmer.
    1) you can use any MD you like (+C);
    2) you can use any armor you like;
    3) you can skip xtals too (LMAO).
    You only need a bit cspd for Wind Release to be instant cast. In my case I am using special, but I've tested other equip too, so?

    More screenshots below.

    If you're poor or dont want to invest ANYTHING AT ALL:
    Screenshot_2021-04-26-20-58-21-644_com.asobimo.toramonline.jpg
    P.S. yes, you can do without xtal, I mean it.

    Choice #2:
    Screenshot_2021-04-26-20-58-27-242_com.asobimo.toramonline.jpg
    P.S. I do not recommend going for this one, unless you're an M like me and prefer to spend next 10 hours of your life farming York.

    Choice #3:
    Screenshot_2021-04-26-20-58-33-138_com.asobimo.toramonline.jpg
    You can just get the mask, no need for xtal (I was just testing stuff) which will currently cost you 30k spina, if not less.

    That is all for the equipment part.
     
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  2. Razielle

    Razielle Well-Known Member

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    Now let's see how good it is on popular farming spots:
    This is me annihilating frogs (remembered the good old times, during my 4k stk ss grind)
    Screenshot_2021-04-26-21-00-38-612_com.asobimo.toramonline.jpg
    This one is on Bubble Boggey where HB users will cry now:
    Screenshot_2021-04-26-21-02-58-136_com.asobimo.toramonline.jpg
    And the next one is me playing with some wood:
    Screenshot_2021-04-26-21-05-28-902_com.asobimo.toramonline.jpg

    Okay, so now some unfaithful lad will throw his slipper at me and say:
    But dude, why in the friggin hell is ur dmg so low?
    Explanation:
    The damage is low because of two factors
    1) I am using Fire Element MD
    2) I am using Mana Recharge buff from Support skill tree.
    Some people will ask why, so I'll say this beforehand, model a situation where you're just blindly spamming Wind Release (like me), it's 2mp but it still runs me dry after 9 uses or so. While I'm under Mana Recharge, untill I run out of MP, the buff actually restores me around 500mp. Do I smell profit here? Of course, since I can spam more and MP Charge less frequently.
    This is exactly what I have tested myself, the different MP regen skills (War Cry of Struggle with 5k cspd vs MP Charge+Maximizer).
    P.S. the passive from Bow skills, Quick Draw, is useless here, so don't waste your time.
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    Okay, so this kind of completes my guide here and since I dont know how to make a flashy exit, I'll just put in here the necessary skills in a link to Coryn.club simulator:
    http://coryn.club/skill_simulator.php?code=1965608701a20dcac

    Storm is optional. If you're low lvl, or have very ordinary equip and can't 1hit, don't take it. Otherwise it's good on low hp targets.

    Finale is for you to actually lvl up, unless you want to be kicked from every party (I mean it).

    Refinement tree branch is optional (you can do +A ~ +S refines, when you feel that life is too rewarding on you).

    Everything else is on you, still plenty SP to use.

    P.S. if you've found any errors in grammar, it's okay, English is not my main language. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. RyeUshio

    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    Can this build farm Morga mobs effectively? ^_^
     
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    Who knows? :oops:
    Give me a few minutes to test I guess :D
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    I doubt you would call doing 3 hits on Evil Eye to kill them as being effective. I guess with Water Element MD it could be 2 hits. But this build wasn't meant to be used there, it has more of a poor man's approach to it.
     
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    Are the damage in your screenshots all non critical? The ninja luk farmer builds i saw on yt so far all used critical rate and critical damage equips and did similar damage as yours lol
     
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    I'll reply like this: sir, for m.crit you need crit x3 so why bother?
    Damage on screenshots is using the MD on first screenshot, so naturally damage on Venomsch and Bubble Boggey could be higher if I switched, since I have all elements. But why bother? I mean, frog and BB are low-mid hp mobs, you still 1hit them.
    If I wanted to show damage, I'd go respective ele MD and not use MP Recovery (this has -0.25 dmg modifier), all accounted, you still 1hit where it matters so why spend hard earned spina on gear you dont really need?
    I rather spend it on my CF, 2HS, Mage, but not on farmer equips ;)
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    Yes, all the damage on ss is non-crit, without any sorts of buffs, etc.
     
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    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    Thanks for testing, my curiosity comes from the reason that I use a single luk farmer for all mobs that I farm, for if these new ninja skills are deemed effect to weak and strong, then I can absorb em to further improve my existing build, contemplating on what to ditch and save to make use of skill points effectively. ^_^
     
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    Well, not sure what you mean, since I didn't farm mobs there even once. But if you mean dmg, yes. It hit for same amount of 25-45k (up to 50k withouth mp recovery) per hit, but thats not being effective. I only need farmer to get mats for my statter, so yeah.
     
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    Isn't water vorex better than wind? wind is like sunrise arrow which is quite tedious to tap later on.

    They use vortex, the one here used wind release
     
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    Well, water on ivy doesn't always 1hit, then you're vulnerable. Also I dont have or seen a good scroll because for wind you only need 3mp reduct. But for water, you need water+kunai+mp reduct (i only have 1/1.0) so with that one I can use it 2-3 times before mp runs out. The mp recovery would become useless, since with -0.25 you will stop 1hit mobs.
    So Yea, it's a good storm alternative but needs more investment (crits often too)
     
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    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    Use 1mp combo on water release with save tag and finale ender. Save tag doesn't reduce the damage of vortex. with 2k mp and a 2/0.6 scroll, you can cast vortex 10 times.
     
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    1mp as in impact->water(save)->finale(smite) ?
    Well, for now I tried like this on the spur with a 3/0.6 scroll:
     
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    any 1mp opener will also do. 1mp combo + kunai = 2mp cost. Impact is 2mp btw so if you make it as an opener it will eat 3mp bar instead of 2.

    Edit: You can cast water release while vortex is still on so after vortex, just kunai and vortex will occur once again. For some unknown reason, casting water release won't overwrite vortex which makes it a good and will continue to deal aoe damage without pause.
     
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    Wait, we can't use combo without aggro'ing a mob, however. That's why Reflex/Ad-lib don't work, they just cast themselves and don't result in a combo.
     
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    ..and while aggroing + doing the water release combo, target most likely already dead from other farmers in the party. ^_^
     
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    that make sense, guess impact is the best choicw for opener then.
     
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    impact will... kill the mob in question?
    Slide would have been a good opener but it isn't available for ninja.

    Also it's difficult to target mobs when they are constantly being killed, you need to basically wait for some mob to be available.
    (Setting targeting to far and using Sonic wave level 1 might help, since MATK builds won't oneshot using Sonic wave.)
     
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    You can manually press to do the combo.
    Setup the combo like this:
    Adlib>Water(Save)>Finale(Smite)

    When in battle, simply press on adlib and water in order, no need to press on Finale.

     
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    Hi again guys. If anybody is interested in this still, I'll just update my current equip.
    Now I got both scrolls for water and wind, so the staffs for water can be a bit expensive but you can really use +B NS staffs here, but without the MP Recovery skill. With crit food buff (+18cr, we get 99-100cr for water):
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    Oh wow. I don't have money tho, I only have the Pumpking - Jeila - Zoe set + Bear Hat slotted with Zarth as an 'investment'.
     

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