About the new evasion system

Tl;dr : New evasion system is kinda brokenly OP, needs a little nerf(?)

So I just came back to the game from a quite long hiatus. Was watching youtube videos of memes, until I get a notification "Free skill&stat reset". So I knew I just had to come back, right.

Not expecting much, turns out the long awaited/teased guard/eva system has now been implemented. Was kinda surprised.

So I jumped into some battles, tried them out, and really liked it. Although there is one thing that kinda bothers me about the evasion system.

I don't see any downside of this "skill"? Like, it's flawless. I know the recharge time gets longer the more you use it but that's about it. One way to overcome that issue is to just not spam it.

And with this skill too, backstep is now kinda useless? Some people told me we can still use it for combo fillers but I don't see why that would be good like it's not what the skill is supposed to do.

Basically, I think this evasion system is a little too OP and(y'all might hate me for this) needs a little nerf. Idk what the nerf might be, but just nerf it a little. And to be honest, I do see the nerf coming, it's inevitable imo.


Ps: completely different topic, might be a little too late too, but 500k/5-10secs from goliath punch is crazy, no cooldown whatsoever. Needs nerf

 

Or maybe I'm just uneducated and that there actually is a drawback from using this skill. Idk lol

 

Knuckle is shorthand, so you don't get enough ampr for spamming goliath, unless ur at stationary bosses. And the dmg is generally crazy now

 

True, they can't spam that much but now that people have so much ampr, you can probably do like 5-10 goliath in a row and deals massive amount of damage. Crazy stuff

 

Well, that's depend on what you think is OP from the evasion system itself, but for me it's kinda what i expect from it. It's gamechanging, but it's full extent only will be used for skilled players, so pretty much the same and from what i know the evasion count cap already enough to be a limitation. Not to mention the mirage evasion have cooldown, tho the cooldown might need to be increased a little to make sure those finale user not abuse it too much

the thing is, crusher skills is designed for knux user to compete against another damage dealer meta, so it's kinda expected (tho the thing that's unexpected is the fact that knux now can fight head to head to the current damage dealer mainstream build)

Overall, the evasion system is intended to change the gameplay, but i think not to the point it will push away dedicated tank in the team composition in high difficulty bosses (tho some people think it will change the entire team composition, so let's see how far can evasion system can change the game), while crusher is kinda expected in term of the skill design

 

Evasion isn't broken lol. It's basically a weak i-frames for everyone. You still can't expect a mage to finale solo everything given how fast and frequent some bosses attack. If anything being able to control evasion stops dumb deaths at bosses like tapir with ball spam and evasion motion lag (prior to update).

It's rather bad design to force players to have to take certain skills to enjoy game mechanics in a 'classless/jobless' game.

Also. Well regarding knux. Goliath + Godhand is... Crazy damage but still really just moderate speed on NM/ulti bosses with equalised gear and generalized builds (builds focussed on the stat distribution suggested by the game)

 

It's not a real i-frame though, you recieve damage from everything besides auto attacks

 

Yup, kind of a bad counter to infinite range auto attacks z_z.

 

Just do a small testing about this evasion system, it's pretty good, I don't even need decoy to solo bosses. I can sense a huge nerf after this:

 

I don't agree on the nerf. As we know our fellow community most people won't be able to time evasion correctly and will just keep dyeing.

 

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The skill is ok. I think reducing the number of charges or relating it to a variable might be an option. Like 10 charges is a lot, and now avatars have changed evasion % to evasion recharge %. So I think the modifier should be on the count.

It should be either with level, like star gem slots or we lose charges if we're hit.

 

True.

 

In my opinion as a DW player the new system didn't change my game play for the better. We already have multiple ways to avoid attacks (backstep, phantom slash, storm reaper etc). I only needed evasion for when i was in mid combat. So for me 75% evasion was way better. I guess I liked how dodge and evasion went hand in hand mid combat, but now evasion is just another skill to use. Just go watch evasion videos at Shampy and P. Avatar, can't do that with the new system. Also not sure if it's a bug because I see players saying they can evade mid combo. For some reason even with the new mirage skill at lvl 10 i can't evade mid combo.

 

evade mid combo is an know-bug by asobimo so at the end short combos best option.

 

Longest combo is 3 skills long and that's my buff combo lol.

 

You can still choose the old evasion system in the settings. You are not forced to use manual evasion. The evasion midcombo only works *inbetween* skills. So I need to evade between war cry and impact, but I can't evade during impact.

 

Oh? But since everything is changed to evasion recharge what is our chances of evading now if we stay with the old system?

 

It IS broken because:
1. Has no drawback
2. Basically a better version of backstep therefore making backstep completely useless

 

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legit after tried evasion, they should nerf the recharge time because in most circumstance, unless you gonna tank any monster your evasion count wont deplete much till 0. Heck, even someone manage to solo tanking mardula using HB, which means there's something too much in the evasion system