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Ask me anything about warrior :)

Discussion in 'Warrior' started by Impact, Jul 30, 2016.

  1. Tritecs

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    So if I'm a hybrid I can deal more dps ? And what is a 1h sniper and why 1h means that I really can't to hybrid ?
     
  2. Impact

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    Your claim on the mp consumption factor is right and legit. Let me talk about 1h fu. I'm sure people gonna say I'm wrong but I have to say what I feel.

    1h fu greatest weapon is that 1mp super speed motion combo that do 40k damage per 2.5sec. But with only 3 skills in that combo, the chance for last draw to proc a lot is impossible. Most of the time I see with 900mp, it proc around 2 to 3x. Which also mean 1 thing. It can do a cap of 480k damage(provided boss don't guard nor flinch you) and you have to auto attack alot to gain mp back. Any hard bosses with long hp will make you feel your struggling. Having no flinch combo is great in a way, but only having 1 lethal combo make this hybrid class a little bored to play with. Any other combo doesn't work well. The worst of all, you can deplete your mp in a matter of seconds.

    So I concluded 1h fu is a monster of short term battle. Long term battle 2h will do better if you build good combo.

    Anything below 500k hp bosses, 2h will lose many times. Unless you have crazy gears. Like my previous post, you need 1700 > 1900 atk to outburst 1h fu in short battle. There is many combo to win 1h fu when you reached that godlike 2h geared stage.

    I will leave the combo aside since any combo with 130% tempest with that gears can possibly outdps a 1h provided the battle is long enough.

    For 2h, our role is to dps, without a doubt. But 2h is a expensive class to play with when it main flaws is that, it doesn't have good accuracy. So my conclusion is, with the same amount of mp and same gears.. 2h will still lose to 1h fu in term of dps.

    1h arrow, Snipe damage isn't worth noting. U can critical quite alot but you won't be doing more than 30k no matter how hard you prorate.
     
  3. Impact

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    Haha. I based my answer on 1h. Even as 1h,i choose strength as my core stats.

    Reason is strength give you critical damage bonus. Every 5 str = 1 critical damage(cdmg). At lvl 255.. You would have 51 Cdmg on top of your base 150. That would mean your critical hit will be 2x of ur white damage. With astute, you boost another 25% critical rate. Your base critical rate is 25%. So technically, you would be doing 80% critical hits all the time. Why waste ur dps potential when you can be that? You can go dex later on as bosses start being really nasty in hard and nightmare mode. Soon enough you will realise solo any normal mode bosses won't be hard. It just take time.
     
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  4. Impact

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    I will definitely get rid of war cry. The little boost of atk with that slow animation doesn't benefit me in any way. By the time I finish casting war cry someone else already doing 20k damage. Lol. To me, keep sober is a more legit option.

    You can find pots to heal your hp easily. But the only way to replenish mp.. I think you should know, haha...

    Going less hp pots usage is for a tank.. Not a swordsman job. We stand too close for our own comfort.

    I would also not recommend atk up from battle skills passive. Why? It add a total of 25 atk at lvl 100. Meaning you from 5/10 to 10/10 u gain 12 or 13 atk. Its a waste of points.

    I would rather you move all this point into last draw and with ur ampr build, you will have no problems casting or spamming your skills over and over and over again.
     
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    Well thanks for the answer Guess I'll play around abit gold stars
     
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  6. Impact

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    If you look at video with 1h fu(a hybrid of martial and sword skills) . Their combo is super fast and thus their dps is high. You can always choose to spend some of your skill points into other skill tree. This game doesn't limit you from getting other skills, but make sure you are equipped with the proper weapon or else the skills cannot be cast.

    1h can equip, magic device, knuckle, arrow, shield, Dagger and another sword(aka duel wield). Going hybrid mean you go for another main class skills.

    Sub class skills are Dagger, shield.
     
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  7. Caithe

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    ur 1h fu must be have a crazy gear if u can dish out 40k damage when using rampage combo (@90% tkick damage). all this time i feel 1hfu is only excell on spamming combo, so the damage must be weak.

    but anyway, like u said, a long fight battle... if we facing a situation where both 1h fu and 2h tempest completely depletes their MP, so basically reaches zero mp, i think this is the most situation that will make 1h fu struggling, lets say both can regen 100 mp with 5 autoattacks, 2h tempest and 1hfu can use their main combo right away, but the different is in dps, while 2h tempest maintain their dps, 1h fu will be hard to keep up with 2h tempest, this is what i really concerned about, 1h fu mp management in a long fight, which is to be expected in the future.

    also do u have vids for ur 1h fu ? not to doubt anything but i just want to see ur 1hfu in action:D , i just want to destroy the image in my head about 1h fu that only excell in spamming, but have weak damage.:oops:
     
  8. Groot

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    1h fu will probably extra SP left at cap 110 that they can put on shellbreak....
    which then one could make a side combo completely for recovering mana/guard breaking off shellbreak
     
  9. Groot

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    astute lv 10 only no combos only spam astute
     
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  10. Impact

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    To alot I have crazy gears. I was using +a 95 Anni sword when I was 1h fu. I do not have a video channel. My current 2h using +s Anni sword and armour, add, special gears all are 2 slotted. (I buy those really cheap 2 slotted to test... Thanks to my dearest friend who is quite famous in this forum who kept asking me to do plenty of tests)

    But let put it this way. My average combo on 2h cost 200mp 80k per combo. Take 4.5sec to finish casting every thing.

    My 1h fu do around 35k per combo on 1mp bar. Take 2.5 sec to complete the combo.

    Let put them both on 800mp.
    2h do 320k damage with 18 sec.

    1h fu do 280k damage with 15 sec.

    All mana depleted. Any fight below 15 sec will lose to 1h fu even I have super 2h gears.

    40k damage from 1h fu only happens 1/5 time. Lol. It's not constant. But regarding to that 80k, it's constant for me. I do 23k to 35k tempest first hit..per tick always around 6k. That alone will give me 60k damage at least.

    1h fu average astute do 8k, the trigger slash do around 3k dmg or so. The triple do 7 to 8k damage .

    But with my mp pool able to get bigger and bigger where as 1h rampage fu build cannot have bigger mp pool than 999..i will easily go beyond the limit of what is given to 1h fu.

    I'm sorry I'm not 1h fu anymore so I cannot screen shot and show u..
     
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    The moment u do that, it make 1h fu defeated. I have shellbreak on my 1h fu previously,

    Note this.. With or without knuckle.. The chance to proc shellbreak is like 25%. I didn't believe in this so I asked my friend to test it as well. He was shaken by the fact.

    Once u start to use this combo trying to recover your mp.. 2h with shellbreak in their combo can keep spamming and continue doing it. Average 2h have 1k to 1.4k mp.. We can constantly do our combo. That's what I have been facing as a 1h fu. Once the mp run out.. U start suffering severely. Coz other skills doesn't excel in dmg..
     
  12. Caithe

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    yes, i actually thinking bout this combo, just for mp recovery and double ampr combo, astute > shell break(save) > triple kick(smite) > trigger slash(cons)
    shell break for mp recovery, and trigger slash last for double ampr, but anyway i just gonna disregard shell break as its completely RNG, and only rely on trigger slash.
    if u able to increase ur mp pool more than 999, then ure not using rampage combo ?
     
  13. Groot

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    you just have to be creative abt your combos.. thats all it needs
    regular combo astute>trig save>smite trikck>ramp smite costs 6sp
    smash>trig save>smite kick>shell break cons> also 6 sp ---->slower but you still use the trig+trikick synergy and 1 in 4 times if it activates, you still win on dps
    2h is too weak for now cos of crappy rampage and subpar tempest sword...probably 4th tier will change things
     
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    if you use 1050 MP pool still no problem using rampage combo since activates at 1mp you are left with 950 which rampage smited won't activate
    but you risk quickdraw chance on the first skill (on astute) sometimes when you activate astute then quickdraw immediately kicks in, the rampage will activate...
    so far its very safe using 950-1000 MP pool
     
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    Lol I tried 1k mp exact. The chance of it happen is 5%. If it happen.. Just type in chat say "ggwp"
     
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    Haha, trust me I'm very creative with combos, that's why I don't want people to rely on mainstream combo. I want them to play around with it. To create their very own lovely combo of their liking.

    If your 1h rely on that style.. It will lose dps. Both smash and shell break have poor animation. Changing it to holy fist can shorten that motion by a bit. But the dps will suffer.

    1h astute buff is critical. Likewise for 2h. I will not try to debate further using personal experiences and opinions but I'm sure you know what I trying to explain.

    Just a note.. Astute buff duration is short. And u can't have 2 astute starter combo. Your triple kick will most likely crit. But the rest might not be.

    Thats for 2h vs 1hfu.

    Rampage is bad.. And tempest can't fully lands on alot of bosses.
     
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    Can you tell the difference of Astute Lvl 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10? how much damage % it increase per skill lvl?:confused:
     
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    How viable is a 1h+MD as a primary supporter? I know they suffer a -15% atk penalty and only have a +3 MATK growth with INT, so it seems that going for attacker is a lost cause. I've been theorycrafting for weeks now about this, but I haven't been able to try it out due to hardware issues. How viable do you think this could be?

    It could focus on manipulating proration for their team (through saving Storm or Tempest in a combo) and buffing allies with skills like War Cry and Gloria. Perhaps it could take advantage of status ailments through Magic:Blast and elemental 1hs?

    TL;DR How viable is a 1h+MD that focuses on support in the current and forseeable future meta?
     
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    How much is ur mp when u said u could have bigger mp pool than 1h fu that uses rampage combo?
    Also if ure not using rampage combo, then what combo ure using?
     
  20. Neric

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    I want to make 1h support. How can I make this? I want to be called the healing warrior.Pls help
     
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