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[Build] Hybrid DPS Brawler (a.k.a. The Breaker v3, Xbow+Knuckles) by~ NineArts

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by NineArts, Jan 14, 2016.

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  1. Precaria

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    Future changer. <3
     
  2. L-28

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    Those poor raffeys, though... XD
    Btw, what was up with that one 81 dmg in case a? It's really far from the rest of the dmg in the rest of case a...
     
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  3. Saphos

    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    This will help decision-making for second stat choice. Great timing on the test and thanks for thinking ahead. You are awesome ^^
     
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  4. Mugami

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    Where did you get this info on Str adding stability?:eek:
    I've never heard of it.:confused:
    I must know more.
     
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    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    I think that has been a rumour going around the forum. Some people actually presented numbers on it, but I can't remember where exactly I saw it though. Arts, you remember?
     
  6. Mugami

    Mugami Well-Known Member

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    I can do a prim test this in a few hours or so. I got a Str bs and all the necessary equips.
    We'll see soon.
     
  7. NineArts

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    auto attacks from previous levelling, even with auto attacks on targets, it will not increase Drop Off Damage because they die in one hit (i don't want to kill Raffies anymore.. T_T)

    Stability mentioned on 1st page, on my Damage Cases Section. source: [link]
    ■安定率
     
    最高ダメージに対して、補正後安定率%~100%まで整数%がランダムでかかる。
    (STR×a+DEX×b)÷40 小数点以下切り捨て
    【片手剣】a=1、b=3 (STR×1+DEX×3)÷40
     
     【両手剣】a=0、b=4  DEX÷10
     【 弓 】a=2、b=2 (STR+DEX)÷20 
     【自動弓】a=2、b=0  STR÷20
    ■ stable rate
    For the highest damage, integer percent take at random until corrected stability percent to 100 percent.
    (STR × a + DEX × b) truncation ÷ 40 decimal
    [One-handed sword] a = 1, b = 3 (STR × 1 + DEX × 3) ÷ 40
    [Both hands sword] a = 0, b = 4 DEX ÷ 10
    [Bow] a = 2, b = 2 (STR + DEX) ÷ 20
    [Automatic bow] a = 2, b = 0 STR ÷ 20
    no stability when adding DEX makes sense for xbows, to make it not overpowered (think about the high natural stat conversion of xbows, 1 dex = 4 atk, then paired with high stability around 95%. in this case the latest update buffed xbow stability with Paralyse Shot, however we don't have data as to how much percent per level.. maybe i will make that test later).


    unfortunately, no.. the only numbers i did with those are from my damage test cases at page 1 :oops:

    would like to see having 150 STR for that +30% cdmg and +8% stability.. if we are using the same setup, then 180% crit damage and 89% stability.
    please don't kill Lv.1 Raffies, too much sacrifice already.. :(


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    anyways, as an additional opinion on this matter, the jump from 81% to 85% stability should not make the range damages from the two cases be far from each other, so this also supports the idea that cdmg increases as STR is increased on xbows.

    Case A vs B (minimum): 250 vs 291
    Case A vs B (maximum): 659 vs 734

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    Imma Test tomorrow or so. Got a drop booster. Lol
     
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    build updated:

    (1/20/2016): added Stat Distribution/Points of Interest/Current Setup Sections. Videos pending (still need to hunt for gear)
    posted here: [link]
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    Dude I love how much detail and effort you put into this. Good work.
     
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    thanks :D

    and also, thank you Google Translate~ :oops:

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    Thank you for your evaluation^^. And this combo still has a 100 MP Cost, right?
     
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    yep, 100MP Cost ;)


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    But brawlers are not good at anything vs bows.Archers are better knifes and guns compare to brawlers.
    No argument.So......
     
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    lol hyper without a good brawler in pt good luck in future bosses xD I'd love to see an archer avoid or tank a fast hiting DPS boss
     
  16. Hypernova

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    GL even existing in this game.
    Sword tanks,superior to you by default,do not exist?Archers can still build tanky...
    You are just dinosaurs in denial of your extinction.I almost never see a brawler in Toram,even then they just exist and contribute nothing real to the party.They are worth kicking after one run.
    Just look at the Reddit thread on you guys.Summed up brawlers perfectly.Seriously GL.Archer Online baby!
     
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    lol wow funny how we can tank/DMG/hold aggro/solo most/and in future caps add the same m.atck as any mage +4 int per 1 point I'm guessing you don't see the bigger picture as for reddit that's a small minded community's view archers became the highest DPS yes due to snipe but before this every archer cried at the lack of DMG who's to say for example sake a future mages skill say...meteor an op single target DMG won't make snipe look pathetic? now apply said skill to brawler and voilà op tank+massive DMG helk even storm on a brawler works a treat.since agi on Knicks adds cspd ATM rocking 309 cspd BTW and funny thing is as a brawler I always get a pt so how's your prediction on that? and as further more to ur statement when u make a 1h or dw build I'll gladly have a small 1vs 1 let's see how useless a brawler is OK? hell pps: ask a few ppl how many times I've saved there ass from aggro from a boss.and to quote your last comment dinosaurs didn't evolve we do BRAWLERS ftw.
     
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    No. Just don't.
    If you can't understand how brawlers are meant to be played and how useful they are in situations (not to mention future updates, gk is a perfect example of things to come) I suggest to keep your narrow minded opinion to yourself
     
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    ty
    ty haisey u get my point
     
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    Lol the narrow minded people that think damage is everything
    Siiigghhhh
     
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