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Cella's Evasion research

Discussion in 'Toram Online Game Guides' started by Cella [Yurie ♥], May 15, 2016.

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  1. RyeUshio

    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    Developers should have their terms straighthen out.

    I noticed there is no evasion+ if you try to put stats in your player bs made armor. Not sure if it was originally there or was removed. Since we can find all applicable stats to armor while stating, we can therefore conclude that there is no more evasion+, and only evasion rate% exist now.

    *regarding neck flexibility% how to check it? ~^_^

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    So my question is since mole eyes and mirror shield add eva and gaurd can u do both with the same character like evade 1 atk then guard the next atk???
     
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    Yes you can. Wear light armor and equip a shield. @Caskadia has an eva+guard build.
     
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    Where is this thread:eek::eek::eek::eek:
     
  5. Cypherian

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    My only question remains is that,
    if there is no Evasion+ stat and only Evasion+%

    How come Over Heat Potion gives Evasion+ instead of Evasion +%

    Is it because Devs have noticed how much some of the players exploited this because of what Mugami Posted before by making a Full Eva build that can Reach 74 Evasion just by getting Flat Evasion Stats on base and getting % Evasion after. When I tried the build, and when I added Reflex. I was Evading Like Crazy. But now all the equips I used before on my eva build, some were changed to either Dodge% or Dodge Flat.
     
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    Maybe they forgot to change it:confused::confused::confused:
    Asobimo makes simple mistakes like this pretty often but now tht u mention they might change it soon.
     
  7. Islandi

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    I think the Devs changed the gears' and potions stats because of Mugami's findings.

    And now Overheat Potion is also changed from Eva+10 base to Dodge+10. I used the potion this morning and I saw my Flee stat changed instead.
     
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    YEs i just saw that too, I was using Overheat Potion last night on GK and it said Evasion +10. Then when i woke up this morning, it was Dodge+10

    Thank you mugami for exploiting and exposing a good and non-OP stat and making the devs change them
     
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    Now I think Eva is pure % without Base.
    Rapier +5%
    Light Armor +10%
    Light Armor Mastery +10%
    Mirror Shield +10%
    Mole Eyes +10%

    So I think without Crystals, it's max 45% Eva achievable?
     
  10. Cypherian

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    How about xtals? FW Gave flat evasion... any body checked yet
     
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    also with Crimsosh...
     
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    They changed all Flat Evasion+ to Dodge+
     
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    My goodness, then those players who bought or spent long hours farming the crystals for Eva stats will be.... *shakes head*
     
  14. Cypherian

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    Yes, Destroying an over all good stat to build. something not so OP treated as OP
     
  15. Cella [Yurie ♥]

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    I found another problem now...
    I evade 7 times out of 10 times no mobs and mini boss, but somehow for Boss like Roga, and others I almost never avade...

    Do evasion has different calculation on big bosses?

    And I found the raw theory of Guard Rate
    Guard rate got guard rate base and guard rate %
    So total gurd rate = base guard rate (1+ Sum of guard rate%)
    I notice with with several of my experiment, if you upgrade equipment and add guard stats, you'll find both guard rate and guard rate%, but you can only find evasion% :)

    Heavy armor mastery give 30 base guard rate
     
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    I found another problem now...
    I evade 7 times out of 10 times no mobs and mini boss, but somehow for Boss like Roga, and others I almost never avade...

    Do evasion has different calculation on big bosses?

    And I found the raw theory of Guard Rate
    Guard rate got guard rate base and guard rate %
    So total gurd rate = base guard rate (1+ Sum of guard rate%)
    I notice with with several of my experiment, if you upgrade equipment and add guard stats, you'll find both guard rate and guard rate%, but you can only find evasion% :)

    Heavy armor mastery give 30 base guard rate
     
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    Since there were changes on Eva. I wonder if having light armor really gives 10% evasion? Coz what i see when your remodeling armor is dodge & aspd increase. Hmmm?
     
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    I think i does, i dont have eva% xtals on my gears nor skills just a light remod arm and im evading some attacks.
     
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    Just a thought.
    What if bosses get more and more resistant to our eva/crt/guard/flinch etc.?
    The higher lv they r the more they can avoid things... Maybe
     
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    Yep i agree with gums, when I remodeled my armor to light. My character evades more, before when it is not remodeled.
     
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