Dont mind this. Its just a bs thing.

Right, we can get more pots from adding minus stat too with TECH. Max pots from minus stat we can get is 20. Btw 10 tech should be = 1 pots coz when my tech bs has 180 tech, her best is 18 pots and when 190, it's 19. That what I noticed.

 

Hi, how do you get 7 difficulty from dex dex gear? What stats?

I only get 5 difficulty with
Dex +7 weapon, dex+2 xtal
Dex +7 arm, dex+2 xtal
+6 dex Chignon cap
Dex tal II (Dex+4,) Dex+2 Xtal
= 30 dex /6 dex per difficulty?

 

So far, to do Elemental Awakening, the Minimum Pot (inclusive of Negative stat(s)) should be at least 68pot (68pot is a 1% chance), any lower than that and it's not possible to add elements. So currently, as long as the weapon as a Potential of 28 and above, Awaken Element can be added to it.

I thought this was true too, but right now my Tech BS has 211 Tech which technically should garner me 21 pots back for that negative stat. However as of yet, I still only get +20 pot. I'm guessing at around 215 Tech we can get back 21 pot. Nevertheless, it's a good rough gauge of Tech to Pot back ratio.

 

http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/guide-to-get-more-difficulty.6747/

 

did it with 41, then negative stats to 84.. 11% chance
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As in 41pot before or after negative stat(s)?

 

41 before, then 84 after adding negatives
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Ah. Yup. You can add with a weapon of 28 pot too. . I do it on my Adels of pot 32 (before update) and it was about 11% chance too.

Before the lvl 75 update (at level 70),
Weapons with a pot of 30 with 2 negative stats (total pot 68) was a 1% success,
31pot with 2 negative stats (total pot of 69) was 6% chance and
32pot with 2 negative stats (total of 70 pot) was 11%.

I haven't tried it after the update but I think now currently, the minimum pot required for a weapon should be 28 (since we can get +20pot +20pot now), provided that 68 is still the minimum pot to awaken an element. :x​

 

Wait, u got 84 pots after put negative to 41 pots? How u got 3 more pots?

 

I thought Careful creation was a flat +1 pot.
I noticed an increase, on average, of +10 between when I had 0 to maxing it. Are you sure you guys are not forgetting about the randomized being -10 to +10?

 

I use 10 tech. Without Dex gear to boost your prof, it's the minimum tech needed to craft the next tier of items to increase your prof efficiently. Almost all of the newer items have a difficulty of item level + 5. 10 tech will give you that 5 difficulty you need. Of course, if you have a Dex Smith or Dex gear to boost Dex, tech need might be different.

 

I also noticed for Adel Swords it was a extra +2pot (from careful creation I believe), Adel base pot is 21. I think for Elflames the Base pot is 19, but the extra pot was only +1. So I think careful creation is like a 10% of base pot.

Hmmm, I just added 10 points to careful creation so I'm not sure if there's a difference on the random -10 and +10 Attack/Defense being less or more. But I think I did get more less than -10 Attack before though on a failed Adel, so I don't think -10 is the lowest limit.

 

Hmmmm......
I've never seen lower than -10.
I haven't went crazy spam crafting things either. I just do it to lvl prof and make a few things I wanted to test. (Ironic, I know, given I have 5.)
The only time I really pay attention to the pots is on stuff I want to make or stuff for guildies. But that being said, mugs (for example) has my int bs and I've never had a negative pot since I put 10 in careful creation. So that's....4, 2, 25, 25, 1, 3, 25, 1...hmmmm 86 and not one negative pot....
Either hes had a run of amazing luck or between 20 tech and careful 10 and int 178 I longer get negatives to making int items.
The lowest one mugs has made within the last 3 months was a rock staff that was +13.

That being said, should I remove my int pot, it would have been:
13-17=-4
Saying I'm right about careful being +1(at least to your stat type)
-4-10=-14
So perhaps the randomizer is -15 to +15.
However, I've never gotten max then either...
17+10+15=+42
Hmmmmmmm.......
I may have to look into this at some point.
Perhaps careful creation only reduces the negative but is not additive itself.

And perhaps the reduction is only a percentage but also higher for item within your stat type.

 

Sorry, it took me awhile to understand this. My brain is really not working . I had to re-read this multiple times before I got what the numbers meant.

My bad too, I meant for the attack/defense being less than -10, not the potential. Apologies for the confusion. I never really took note into my failed weapons though (about how many - pot they had), so I can't really provide any useful information regarding that. If I do make adels again I'll contribute . Currently, I have no idea on how the final pots of failed equipments come about…


Hmm, for the rockstaff made by mugs, the final potential should be 40pot for successful non-slotted ones? (and 38–40 for slotted ones?)

[21 (base pot of Rock Staff) + 17 (from 178 int) + 2 additional (from the 10% of 21 base pot)]. for the NS ones.​

Not sure if this helps, but my 211 Dex BS with lvl10 Careful Creation makes

Adels of 33pot NS if success currently, [around 1 – 2 pots less if slotted]
[21 (base pot of Adel) + 10 (from 211 dex) + 2 additional (from 10% of base pot)].

Shortsword of 26pot NS if success, [around 1 – 2 pots less if slotted]
[15 (base pot of shortsword) + 10 (from 211 dex) + 1 additional (from 10% of base pot)]

Rods of 16pot NS if success, [around 1 – 2 pots less if slotted]
[15 (base pot of rod) + 0 (from 1 int) + 1 additional (from 10% of base pot)]
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maybe each level of Careful Creation adds 1% of base pot for successes?

PS. I'm a @Mugami fan ╰(◡‿◡✿╰)

 

Try making your main stat type.
Bowgun for dex.
Now this careful creation thing is gonna bother me until someone checks that.
Evil devs!
Imma end up stopping other tests to do CC test.....please save me! Anyone!


And mugs only has 54 prof atm. Tech is bumping. So he probably was below min lvl without tech...might be the issue.

I'll look into it after event and my breaker mage update is done. V2 was a bust. So on to V3.
And on a sidenote: I keep track of my total spina earned. Ive spent 6.8m, mostly on tests and mats, and I've never bought a boss xtal....or paid for gear. Once spent 300k at once on b nuts....only to fodder those lvl40 chars in tests......

 

i guess it's due to Upgrade Equipment + Tech stat
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Morning ~
Made some Bowguns with my Dex BS (211 Dex),

Sword Bowgun of 38pot NS if success currently, [around 1 – 2 pots less if slotted]
[16 (base pot of Sword Bowgun) + 21 (from 211 Dex) + 1 Additional (from 10% of base pot)]

Magic Bowgun of 46pot NS if success currently, [around 1 – 2 pots less if slotted]
[23 (base pot of Sword Bowgun) + 21 (from 211 Dex) + 2 Additional (from 10% of base pot)]

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Maybe mugs could make rods, since those are of the lowest difficulty level so mugs should be way qualified for those.
The rods mugs make should be of about 33pot for NS ones.

Rod of 33pot NS if success currently, [around 1 – 2 pots less if slotted]
[15 (base pot of Rod) + 17 (from 178 Int) + 1 Additional (from 10% of base pot)]

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That is a lot of spinas, I have yet to even come close to a quarter of that amount you've spent. :x. I usually hunt for nuts when I need them which is well… wearing me out, so much so that I dread level updates now.

PS. IKR, if the game were to actually provide detailed information for skills, it would be so much clearer.

 

Are u sure? I have upgrade lvl 10 and full tech (211) but the best Pots I can get is 40 (2 x 20) from nega stat. What stat u put and what gear?

 

Guildmate crafted the weapon (she's full BS stat), while my alchemist (full tech, 185 i remember) is the one who consumed the stats (inserted/used potential)
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I think you used the stats belonging to the same tree, like hp regen and mp regen, that will result in visually more pot. For -4% hp regen and -2% mp regen, it visually gives me 48pot in total for that two negative stats instead of 40 pot as compared to -2% mp regent and -2% dodge.