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Is MTL even useful?

Discussion in 'Warrior' started by steve, Mar 13, 2017.

  1. steve

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    Np, also there are 2 ways to decrease fractional dmg by a ton without Sanctuary, refined gear and inflicting Lethargy on the target with heavysmash, Lethargy reduces it by 25%
     
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    Hmmm, I have 5k hp...but the most fractal damage I take from grylle is 600-800. Does something else effect fractional damage? I don't have any equipment that states it decreases fractional damage take.

    Is fractional damage a function of your total HP capacity and physical/magical defence ratio? Or is fractional damage hidden as either a physical or magical form of fractional?
     
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    Fractional is based on ur current/total hp, there are 1s that do a fixed amount even if ur at 90% hp or 30% hp and 1s that is current hp so if ur at 100% hp it will go down to 80% then 70% then 65% etc not actually that but similar to it, like ignite where u take less burn dmg as ur hp gets lower, the things that affect fractional dmg are refine lvls on shield/armour/add, equipment/xstals with +% fractional barrier, Sanctuary and when the enemy has been inflicted with Lethargy
     
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    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
     
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    As sweet, good to know refining reduces fractional damage, that builds a better case for me to refine above +9 for armour and additional. Though, does that mean that the % increase for armour equipment has multiple stats adjusted per upgrade: % Physical / % Magical / % Fractional ?
     
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    Yep its all increased 1% per refine lvl
     
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    So in theory, with S+ armour, additional, and shield. You could get a 45% reduction in damage?
     
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    Mhm
     
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    The descriptions of skills in toram online are not trustworthy lol
     
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    Why be so focused on hp/resist/gp/evasion? When dodge is the b0ss of all of them.
    Unlike dps, tanking is not just about maxing 1 specific stat like cdmg or ATK but you need various different stats and each got its own utility for different bosses.
     
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    (•_•) Fractional isn't fatal,,
    Fatal dealt ur 90% maxhp,,
    Fractional dealt 10%, 30% n 50% of ur current hp,,
     
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    (•_•) Sanctuary reduce fractional dmg as long as the fractional dealt below of ur 10%maxhp,,
    My dps has 9.2khp, n it can stand alone soloing inzanio nm while taking many fractional as long my sanctuary activated,,
     
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    Wrong.
    Fractional and fatal are related
    Fatal came from fractional that kills you.
    But if a fractional didnt kill you , it will only show up as a fractional in youe combat log.
    Example you got
    [901 / 1000HP]
    If you got hit by a 90% fractional , it will say:
    "You received 900 fractional damage"
    But let's say you got
    [899 / 1000HP]
    And if you got hit by a 90% fractional , it will say:
    "You received 900 fatal damage" then you die.

    Also there are 2 types of fractional , 1 is fractional of your max hp and another one is fractional of your current hp (this fractional most likely wont kill you). They both show as fractional in your combat log.
     
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    I think there might be a third classification for fatal damage: There have been instances when the damage I received exceeded my total HP and referred two as fatal. So if it was fractional damage, then it would have been ~130% fractional? Is there something that makes you more susceptible to fractional damage? Possibly the number of remaining team mates in combat?

    I noticed excess fatal damage has been more prolific during Twilight Dragon and Inzanio, when my team is reduced to just myself making an attempt to heal up the fallen.

    I know I have been 1 hit KO'd by physical and magic, and no mention of fatal has been made.
     
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    Yes technically , any dmg that kills you could be considered as fatal , but the only proven case Ive seen so far is fractional.

    About the 130% thing , most likely you were hit by a fractional that uses max hp as base instead of current hp.

    So this thing about people thinking fractional and fatal are 2 different types aren't wrong but not correct at the same time. Those two could be related , if that fractional kills you it becomes fatal, if it doesn't it's fractional. Same can go to other dmg types , if it kills you , it's fatal if not then its physical/magical, but only in a sense it killed you but it wont show as fatal most of the time on your combat log
     
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    I know when you die from Physical and Magical damage, it doesn't state fatal. And the only bosses that I have received fatal damage from are (1) Inzanio



    Gespenst...[​IMG] , And Twilight Dragon.
     
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    DG's alien touch is fatal too though most of the time it only shows as physical normally , but when you get killed by his magical , it still shows as magical.
     
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    I have a feeling select attacks are (magical, physical, fractional) + x% Fatal (Death touch). I have had instances when I decided to use 100% Vita plus, and cash shop potion, to have 20k+ Hp. And then had my character fly across the map by a single attack...

    I observed that when Inzanio creates his 'arena aura' effect, that if you take too long, it suddenly disappears and a flash of light knocks you out as fatal damage, I can assume...it was a meteor crashing?
     
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    I'm currently retesting right now to make the events happen again, because there were some stuff i forgot to consider of
    1 of it was me being stunned when i got hit.
     

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