Knuckle build ideas

Dont bother adding dex as a knuck user. Your stat points are better suited towards Vit, Crit, or Str.

 

Unless making a weapon crafter... Full Pot Katanas FTW!

Though you'll be spending a bit more on equipment, Star Gems, and Avatars, Fairy Sewing Tools, and Fairy Paper Patterns(if you buy Orbs) than normal to cover (in part) the lost DPS...

 

Actually the game has changed a bit. It's now called Decoy Online and that extra 1k cspd from DEX substat actually counts a lot for this skill alone

I'm really tempted to move my knux+shield back to sub-DEX too...

 

What changed with Decoy?

 

Nothing. Everyone just found out that the AMPR gain it gives is so amazing that any class is more or less gimped not using it. Outside of Mages and maybe knuckle + MD, but even they benefit from it. .-.

 

Would decoy still be effective for knuckles since it has a short range.
Is the ampr bonus from erher flash good? Or i should just stick to maximizer??

 

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I am using power wave to stay out of mobd reach and regen mp.

 

Nah im not using it at all for knux+md... but its a CRUCIAL skill for knux+shield. Ether flash + resonance + maximize is a decent replacement for decoy. Plus decoy doesnt feel appropriate for a ranged knux char...

 

Str is of no actual use to knuckle users. It raises crit rate a bit but the points are much better placed in Dex, crit or vit. All of which actually do something for brawlers.

 

I thought str raises crit damage?
I was building my knuck somewhat like a reverse halberd agi>str.
No crit stat because of twigle.

 

Dont know what happened there. Deleted my post

 

Yes, every 5 points in STR raise base CDMG by 1. It is stronger than sub-stat dex because it ends up being quite a significant multiplier on crit (although you would lose out on ~200 atk power)

 

Now I'm confused. Crit stat also adds crit damage? I thought str adds crit damage. From what i read from the tome of offense,
1 agi =1.5 attack
1 dex = 0.5 attack
1 str = 0 attack

Is this correct? Can you help me with my secondary stat.
Right now im lvl 117, i have 255 agi and 90 str. Should i restat to crit or dex?

 

My suggestion: restat and add vit 30~90, if you add vit to 30 rest goes to crit. I used Dex because I felt like it but that doesn't mean you have to use dex. Dex for a brawler would be for atk, cspd and aspd as hit rate doesn't do much even with max dex. Its good to have but not required.

 

Woah sorry, yes that was a big typo . I editted (corrected) my above comment
Definitely 5 STR = 1 CDMG

 

I missed a lot yesterday it seems. Yes, that's all correct.

AGI/STR is fine, so long as you can get the crit rate from equipment to get 100% crit rate on what you're fighting. If you want to alleviate that burden a bit against critical resistant monsters, add CRT. 34 or 35 crt, should be fine for now, but a little more won't hurt, since CRT resistant monsters are likely going to be in our future regardless.

As for what CRT adds as a stat. You'll get a point of crit rate for every 3.5 points of CRT stat that is added. 7 CRT = 2 Critical rate.

CRT does not add critical damage. Only STR adds critical damage, as Lenwork already mentioned.

Since you're already going AGI/STR you'll want to add VIT to your stats. Anything above 30 is passable, but i'd recommend around 50 or so if you don't have any friends/guild members with HP food buff. Stick too around 35 CRT, unless you're going towards a Tonfa build. Having no CRT stat added would be for the best then.

So long as you're hitting everything with 100% crt rate and have enough HP to survive, you'll be fine with a STR build. The only thing you're getting out of a DEX build, imo is cast speed for Chakra. If you don't use Chakra, there's almost no point to using DEX aside from the accuracy boost on normal/hard mode monsters. The extra weapon attack iis a nice bonus though. :v.

 

2 dex = 1 attack + negligible attack speed, cspd, and hit.

Dex is a wasted stat for knucks. You can get the attack elsewhere, and Cdmg is a much better multiplier for damage since you'll probably have 100 crit anyway.

I'm not going to go into a big analysis on knucks. You can read any of my 10923810923901 threads.


But TLDR; Knuck stats (After AGI) are best used to get HP, Cdmg, and Crit stats. Gear Stats are best allocated to getting MP, Damage, AMPR, and Crit Stats.

 

Try telling that to AGI>DEX Weapon Crafters, or, Pino forbid, people aiming to build the best Defender Mercenary they could, and is willing to go through insane lengths to do it...

 

FYI, brief comparison at iconos/hard for 2 different (tonfa) buildstyles:

Lvl: 170, Sub: MD, Substat: DEX, Atk: 2.3k, Combo opener: Meikyo
Highest Chariot (on crit): 122k damage

Lvl: 162, Sub: Shield, Substat: STR, Atk: 2.2k, Combo opener: Impact
Highest Chariot (on crit): 158k damage (but maintaining the mp for spam was tougher)

That really is quite a difference