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"magic" brawler?

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Nyahoika, Nov 13, 2015.

  1. Nyahoika

    Nyahoika New Member

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    okay so, i just started playing toram today! obviously i decided to go for the brawler class (i usually play as the DPS class or healer class in RPG's)

    i've been an iruna player since the beta there, and since both are by asabimo, i figured this class would be RELATIVELY similar to iruna's monk class.
    in iruna however, i play as a magic sword monk (agi/int/crt build, basically) and im wondering if something similar might work here? higher int would allow for more skill spamming etc, but im not sure how everything really works yet.

    im just wondering if anything relatively similar to this would work? im not really sure about the type of weapons there are etc yet so i cant really say too much OTL i couldn't really find a post mentioning int on a brawler either. so i figured i'd ask!
    if this sounds like a really stupid question i apologizee orz





    (also could someone send me a link or something to the brawler skill tree? i cant seem to find one orz)
     
  2. BlackRex

    BlackRex A Black Bunneh Elite Member

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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    Sword monk? Well, I think being a monk is possible here. Int-to-Matk of Knuckles are the same as Int-to-Matk of Staff.

    As for using a sword as well, I think we dont have enough skill points to fit in sword skills. XD Int-to-Matk of Swords is inferior too so, Idk if I'd recommend it.
     
  4. Shiroito

    Shiroito Well-Known Member

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    I thought about it a few days ago and my 'monk' is lv 59 atm.
    My gear setup is:
    -Metal wings s dodge+2
    -Forest Wolf armor s dodge+2
    -Forest Wolf cape s dodge+2
    -Ring of greed s dodge+2
    My stats are 150 INT rest to AGI
    My skills:
    -Magic tree: Magic: arrows lvl 5, Magic Wall lv 10, MP recharge lv 10.
    -Survival tree: Safe Rest lv 5, HP boost lvl 10.
    -Priest Tree: Bless lv 10, Holy fist lv 10.
    -Martial arts tree: Smash lv 10.
    -Guard tree: Light armor mastery.
    Planning to get bash lv 10 (since it was monk skill in Iruna xD).
    My ideal gear setup would be:
    - Metal Wings ◇Moonlight Potum.
    - Forest Wolf garb light ◇Forest Wolf.
    - Feather cape ◇Warmonger.
    - Ring of Greed ◇Eerie crystal.
    My commomg dmg is 200-400 normal hits and 1-2k holy fist, my mp attack recovery is not that high yet but enough to always have bless active and flinch the enemies. Somehow the evasion rate is so great with just 10% from equip.
    Try it yourself cuz, for me, it is a really fun build :D
     
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    BlackRex A Black Bunneh Elite Member

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    if u want to maximize dodge, there are better xtals :
    Fw xtal
    Dodge + 4 xtal.
    All is blue xtal
     
  6. Shiroito

    Shiroito Well-Known Member

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    Oh thank yoy so much ^-^
    I'm still new here :p
     
  7. h0tcak3s

    h0tcak3s i want a pet beluga

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    level caps are too low to even make a proper build at this point XD but i'd suggest going full INT or DEX (maybe some AGI) whilst maximising dodge and eva.
    INT or DEX because it benefits ATK and you can still get the martial tree to gain the benefits of the interrupts.
    shield bash if you are wielding a shield for a proper stun.
    magic tree = arrows, wall, lances, mp charge
    martial tree = smash, sonic wave
    survival = safe rest, hp boost
    shield skills = shield bash
    guard skills = light armour mastery
    battle skills = eva up

    recommended xtals : fw, crim, mino (basically brawler xtals)
    recommend weapon : magic device, Metal Wings perhaps, for the CRT.
     
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  8. Ergeruz

    Ergeruz Well-Known Member

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    hi... so whats the purpose of magic brawler??
    I mean is your main damage is still magic and uses knucks for MP recov??

    if you want give me a msg.. im working on breaker mage
     
  9. Shiroito

    Shiroito Well-Known Member

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    I dont use kuckles, I use magic device becouse its atk is based on INT (+2) and AGI (+2) while gaining +4 matk for every INT point.
    Furthermore u get +1 cspd and +2 flee for every AGI point and +1 aspd for every INT point. Thats why I think this weapon suits the best for a 'monk' character. Also its melee atk is fist&kick type while throwing magic blades.

    @h0tcak3s I know the actual lv cap isnt enough to make any proper 'hybrid' class (undestanding 'hybrid' as any class that involve completely different stats and skill tree) but I want to use my knowledge adquired in Iruna to make a char that I can keep in later game, when lv cap gets high enough.
     
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  10. Ergeruz

    Ergeruz Well-Known Member

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    I see and its mp recov per attack is superb.... Nice... Hvnt tot about that... What i did was to mix my dps mage with brawler skills lol... Hvnt tot about this... I really didnt pay attention on magic devices
     
  11. h0tcak3s

    h0tcak3s i want a pet beluga

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    i never attacked you in any way so i dont understand the justification O.O hahahahha. it's all good XD
    on topic : i was trying to look up this build this user had about magic brawlers but i cant seem to find it.
     
  12. Shiroito

    Shiroito Well-Known Member

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    Dont get me wrong. I never thought i was attacked >_< I just give my reasons yo choose magic devices so others with the same thoughts as you may see my... thoughs? (Kinda redundant)
    Im so sorry, english isnt my first lenguage xD
     
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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    You could go knuckles you know.-_-|| Same int-to-matk ratio as staff as i previously said... Knuckles main weapon and MagicDevice sub should benefit your character a lot more. More Matk from Int and more Aspd from Agi, thanks to having knuckles as main weapon.
     
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    Yeah I know. But magic devices gain atk from both (int&agi) and since I gave priority to int (150) I wont have enought agi points to make it worth... I think?
    I testes it b4 with int=agi build and of course u have much better aspd but your atk&matk (both count as factor in holy fist dmg) suffer too much. At least in my case.
     
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    guys, i think the Magic Brawler build makes kind of sense, i recall Knuckles gain Matk with Int.
    also, with the recent update, the Drills from the Moonlight Potum (a65+) gives high Citical Rate of 100, and Critical Damage -150
    penalty is not a problem, Magic Attacks don't Crit.
    aside from it's the highest attack knuckles existing, so that takes care of your accuracy, the only problem if you pump Int would be your attack speed.

    you need fast auto attacks to gain mp as a brawler.
    it has to reach at least around 1057aspd to remove the green bar of auto attack delay
    you can do this by using aspd pots but, are you willing to use the said item forever? hmmm
    there's an accessory that increases aspd i think, with the penalty of phys/magic attacks?

    EDIT: Feather Cape and Gskel Xtal! :eek:

    with regards to DPS, Holy Fist is fast cast, animation like Smash, combines phys and magic attack damage, considered as a physical attack.
    meanwhile Holy Light is a slow cast that is a magic attack that ignores target's defense.

    from my previous tests, going full Agi is the path to Tank+Crit+Breaker
    perhaps the Drills from the Moonlight Potum is a clue for us Brawlers that going DPS should be Magic based?

    with regards to Magic Devices, they are all good, full Int using Magic Devices gives High Matk, and the Phys Attack is half the current Matk value.
    the candidate Magic Device is the Crystal Wings from Astol due to it's high Aspd stat.

    i've already completed the Hybrid Tank I was building, i think i'll try doing some tests for a Magic Brawler and post some test data. ;)
     
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    I have a fairy brawler (magic brawler with magic device instead of knuckle)
    -1:1 ratio of int:agi
    -metal wings
    -light remodeled aqua garb w/ +100 mp xtal
    -forest wolf cape
    -spy talisman (will probably change for a magic II talis, or a speed II talis)
    -bless for support (healing self while fighting is pretty helpful)
    -smash+holy fist(consecutive) combo
    -magic arrows+sonic wave(consecutive)+magic lances(consecutive)*
    -mp charge(for when too low on mp)
    -light armor mastery
    -hp boost**
    -decently balanced damage due to use of normal attacks, magic skills, and physical skills (due to how damage drop off works)
    -decent dodge rate due to equips and agi
    -note that knuckle skills, may miss due to lack of dex, but magic attacks hit which kinda balances out that defect
    -note that magic doesn't crit, so if crit is added, understand that only physical skills can crit
    -note that holy fist is considered to be a physical attack so it can crit and it can miss
    *i have not obtained magic lances yet, so combo is currently magic arrows+sonic wave(consecutive)
    **have not obtained, will add at higher levels
     
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  18. firefox1981

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    hope this helps you 1mp breaker mage
     
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    firefox1981 Elite Member Elite Member

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    or use cat paws 1000 aspd, full int build 900+ matck at 70 then as caps raise add agility + drill claws or better crit rate based claws in future since ull only need the dps for MPR so you can spam m.atcks faster then msges since at 70 brawlers gain a natural +200 cspd bonus add nun hat and seltiro xtal = 700 cspd tested BTW storm cast time 0.12 secs
     
  20. Ergeruz

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    wow.. didnt even used other mp... how come sonic wave didnt consume MP at all?
     

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