Need Tips: Starting as a Full-support Type Player

IGN: Yatchin
Hello everyone! I recently played Toram for about 2 weeks now, and I've been working hard to cultivate my full-support character since then (currently lvl.100).

As a newcomer, I've been reading and watching many essential guides as to how to play support roles. But on my researching... Although not all, many people comments that this role is quite useless, or this role is unwanted for most parties - so I'm quite discouraged myself.

Though, setting aside this types of opinions, I still want to play as this role. I currently spent my skill points on mainly party buffs, anti-debuffs and healings (almost none for skills that deals damage XD), also picked gears that mostly reduces "aggro" factor (medic coat and such) and poured my stats all to DEX.

To my fellow Toram players, would you give me some of your insights on my road towards Lvl. 150 {even though I find it hard to level-up as a support (>w<)}.

Thank you!

 

If you only want to reach lv 150. Then finish the main quest. It will take you to lv 147.
After that do venena normal from 147 to 150.
Borrow a strong mercenary from your friend.

 

What weapon do you use btw?

Chakra is a good support skill for the pt ^^ it provides ampr/mp/dmg reduction but you'll need to use knuckles either as a main or sub weapon

As for lvling, you'll just have to power through it (finish mq first) xD and i also recommend trying to buy a darling tiara from the Consignment Board it gives a lot of MP and -aggro

 

MQ will take you to atleast lvl 146, from there you can go Super Death Mushroom.

Its easy to support there. Spam cast recovery and miniheals to party, and also maintaining buffs/auras to dps. As Support, best join guilds to help power you through it.

 

Best supporter is Staff/Knux

Knux is only for chakra bonus so you can technically take shield instead.

Your stat distribution is INT/VIT/DEX.

Your support comes from shield skills in that it is a once a battle application, priest skills for continuous application and auras for team power boost.

You need to make your combos around those points.

Supporters are useful in Toram but not really necesssary. Being able to heal is useless because players opt to go for low HP max damage builds and have something like 2kHP at lv210.

MP healing is where you are really needed and for Staff/Knux, you can actually permanently keep your party with the following buffs
> HoT from Bless
> MP Recovery (100) per combo tick
> 50% Damage Reduction
> AMPR Boost

Suitable combos for this effect is:
Magic Arrows > Impact (save) > Chakra (swift) > Bless (Swift)
Sonic Wave > Impact (save) > Chakra (swift) > Bless (Swift)

In all cases, your combo starter must cost 1 MP and no other skill must cost MP. You can use aegis and protection without shield but you will need to adjust your combos for increased MP cost.

Power boosts come from Auras Brave Aura and Quick Motion Aura. But they are lost on hit and as such, you need to be able to analyze and evade attacks.

For offensive skills, maybe Imperial Ray from Wizard skill tree can help but that's at lv205 and by then, that skill is garbage for DPS compared to regular magics.

All in all, being a full support isn't exactly 'rewarding' given the lmposed limitations you may encounter in game
> Dumbass team mates (team members who decide that getting off an extra attack in the face of an on-coming AoE with 2k max HP is a good idea)
> Only certain bosses are freely accessible if usual team is busy doing anything else
> Full DPS sword users can actually beat you for support rank
> Bosses can get crazy with AoEs sometimes making auras pretty useless.

Good luck otherwise

 

Staff "Bloom of Peace" have -100% aggro,from granny lv88 mini boss at Abyss of no return

 

Coryn Candy Staff is also a good alternative if having a hard time getting the Bloom of Peace staff to drop.

As full support, you need to focus on CSPD and ASPD above all else. Next is PRes/Mres/FracRes.

I use StaffKnux setup which can switch to KnuxMD setup depending on boss.
Staves have equips which gives high cspd.
MD as sub gives you quick mp charge for emergency (Resonance skill).
Knux as main gives you access to slide. It gets good ASPD and CSPD from Agi and Dex. And you can buy 2s knux very cheap amd player stat it for support. I recently statted mine, you can do so while its still Summer.

Other weapons can also perform full support, if your doing so you need to focus on ampr and crit instead of CSPD. Since you can abuse iframes to sustain auras.

 

I'm currently doing it Vangnir, (Chapter 6, I think). Btw, I'll keep in mind on what you said about Boss Venena ^_^.

 

I use Staff+Shield: Candy Coryn Staff+Maton Shield
I went with Barriers for my Supporter.
Max Support Skill Tree
Magic Skill Tree: Magic Mastery Lv10, MP Charge Lv10, Chain Cast Lv5, Power Wave Lv5, Maximizer Lv10
Priest Skill Tree: all except for Holy Fist is Max
Shield Skill Tree: Shield Mastery Lv10
Guard Skill Tree: Light Armor Branch Max
So Technically Only Attack Skill my Supporter has is Holy Light which also a Self Heal Skill as well.

Some Bosses it hard to keep Support Aura Skills active those with World AoEs, as such I stop with Auras and goes with Buffs of Priest, and Support Skill Tree.

 

StaffKnux is really recommended, hmm... I'll research for more infos about this stuff. I'm glad that I stopped at Lvl. 100 tho, I think I can still manage to apply some of your advices along the way XD.

By what you guys are telling me, I think I can relate on the "keeping the mana lifeline" for the entire party. I prioritised this kind of buffs more than anything, and I'm glad I did that. Also, I've found out about this minstrel skills... Does it really exist? Do you guys recommend it for keeping party mana in check?

Also, I hate the idea that my party mates are being chipped away by debuffs (specially the burn, flinches and tumbles) so I also did some numbers on recovery and immunity. I know pros know how to dodge them sometimes, but I still did it anyway in case of the unexpected. I think I'm being a useless support if I can't even manage to deal with keeping my teammates to play at their full potential.

I'm currently using Candy Corny inserted with Lapin xtal (a gift XD). But I'm quite confused about how the "minus aggro" effects of the gears works. If it says -100% aggro, does it mean I'll not attract any hate points at all even using skills and such? (sorry for this dumb reasoning - now its like I'm saying its broken XD, please enlighten my ignorant understanding about this case)

I read the priest support skills, but it says it entirely depends on my INT stats... Same as for the Shield skills, I think it depends on the VIT stats (please correct me if I'm wrong). My gameplay entirely depends on not attracting aggro (I really like saying what's obvious XD), keeping damage and dps up (I'm aiming at quick motion too, even tho I'm not at 150 yet), managing the party mana and health lifeline and eyeing out debuffs in check. I feel like getting the shield skills (Pres & Mres for vanguard members), but if going with StaffKnux, will mana consumption of those skills go high if I'll not equip a shield? I think it would be wise if I just focus on one thing, but what would you say about this guys?

Thank you for responding guys, I'm glad I seek help on this forum. ^_^

 

I feel bad at my friend merc while doing MQ's tho. It's like I'm treating it as a slave, starting the fight - running around then when the merc gets the boss aggro, ill just spray him appropriate heals and buffs XD.

Also, I noticed this but boss on later parts of MQ spam AoE skills like a madman (-_-), please also include those minions it spawns sometimes. Thats why I can't even do supports on my merc properly XD. Even though they're minions, they just need to give me a gentle touch to kill mah buffs...

 

Kaisyl, man this is so thoroughly explained... I can't thank you enough for this guide. I think I'll follow those three support application you mentioned. Thanks a lot! ^_^

 

The advantage of knux as equip is you get good benefits from Chakra, compared to not having it equipped.

Also you get access to Spirited Dance. A good MP regen skill for party.

Minstrel skills tbh is not that good. Fantasy song can help regen mp by a lot. But it makes you more vulnerable because of slow movement. It also has a weird mechanic which is Adlib-Spam, but it'll keep you too preoccupied from doing other support skills on time. Playing with Dancer or Minstrel as Support you need to be conscious of timing, but it does make an interesting gameplay.

For aggro, you have base of 100%, with Candy or Bloom of Peace, you can get around to 0%. Tbh, I play my Supports with having 40% aggro or less than that, you're pretty much okay with that setup. No need to go for -100% aggro. You can invest on other xtals or equips instead.

Staff Knux or KnuxMD has no access to iframes, therefore you need to get high CSPD and ASPD to compensate on recasting buffs at a fast speed and also on having your character reacting quickly with evades.

Supporting a Merc, won't really hwlp much. You'll see the benefits when your playing with real players instead. But who knows, the future mercenary update which allows them to use skills, might change a lot.

 

Elegant poise for Knuckles? Or do you need non sub Knux?
Also, Quick motion is most useful for People with high AGI and ASPD, so I would like it.
I would really love to play the MQ again with you - I know most level capped players are too busy to care. But I am not level capped, so I can definitely practice my own playstyle with you.

 

Tbh I really cant consider Epoise or Pdef as iframes since it completely removes your buffs once you get hit, tho it can help you survive. Unlike Zantei, Dive Impact, Meteor Breaker, ShadowWalk, Phantom Slash and Storm Reaper which keeps the auras intact.

Burst gives iframes too but very difficult to time and needs a lot of cspd. You need 7.75k+ and with high enough motion speed.

 

But shouldn't you have less Motion speed to last longer in Burst animation?
I think he can reach CSPD benchmarks

• 300 DEX + 100 ≈ 1000 CSPD
• High cycle ≈ 4000 CSPD
• Mage cape ≈ 5000 CSPD
• Rosetta stone ≈ 6000 CSPD
• Demonic Quasar + Chocolate Ooze II ≈ 6900 CSPD
• Holy robe/Lil Devil Garb ≈ 7650

Since he is a Support character, I don't think increasing ATK or MATK should be more of a focus.
MaxMP is 1300 with Above crystas, +250 at level 150, throw in Venena.

I was thinking how to reach 10,000 CSPD for instant cast of all Auras, but it currently seems impossible.

 

Nope motion speed doesnt affect the iframe duration for burst, it still remains as less than a second.

The advantage of having high motion speed is the timing. The iframe buff only takes effect when burst is cast. High motion speed reduces time taken to do the spinning animation. You can try comparing it with a non-tagged and swifted burst. Swift = 50%Motion Speed (Max)

Its possible to reach 10k cspd with Dex>Agi stat distribution and High Cycle plus CSPD equips and item consummables.

 

MATK affects Priest Skills along with INT.

 

Yes, that's why he is DEX > INT.
And the staff can be used for increasing MATK further.
It's only that the equips should focus on Survivability and CSPD.

 

True, tho Royal Heal isn't affected by INT or MAtk, it is based on VIT or was it MaxHP(?) iirc. Also Bless isn't very effective for healing unless MATK is really high.

Btw, here's a video about Burst with high motion speed. High motion speed doesn't affect duration of iframes too.