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Need Tips: Starting as a Full-support Type Player

Discussion in 'New Member Introduction' started by Yatchin × Log Horizon, Aug 26, 2020.

  1. Leo Striker

    Leo Striker Well-Known Member

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    Bless is Regen Heal Type Skill it for giving everyone Small-medium Regens during a period of time unlike Mini-Heal, Heal, Royal Heal those are Single Healing/AoE Heals that only heal 1 time instead overtime they are different from what their purpose is.
    Also Mini-Heal, Heal, Royal Heal can't be combo while Bless Can and Bless can be combo with Gloria.
     
  2. ẜἸoωer

    ẜἸoωer Well-Known Member

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    Bless is okay but it is very situational in use and also becomes overshadowed by other skills. Heals are much more universal.

    I get what you mean it is different. Bless Heal over Time but tbh it can't keep up with the damage taken and also with the high hp pool which makes it insignificant.

    It would only be useful for party members who have below 2k hp (mostly glass cannons). It's okay to have if you have spare sp, but wasting 10sp which you can use to allocate in other skill trees with Support type would make one's supporting more efficient and relevant in a party.

    Also Bless is not recommended if you have party members who use WCoS or other skills that depend on having low HP. Even then, most builds have already a skill that regens hp in their own way which makes the HoT of Bless irrelevant. Bless is a good starting skill for Support but eventually you'll unlearn it or keep it at a lower level to save sp because it becomes irrelevant in use, not unless Aso revamps how Bless works.

    Comboing it doesn't really matter much, I guess it could be used as a combo filler or opener, but looking at it functionality as a Support it doesn't really give much for the party imo.
     
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  3. Amaymon

    Amaymon Well-Known Member

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    You need to actively observe your team members so you don't negatively affect them. If you can't observe much then talk with them. The main users of WCoS are halberd users so try not to heal any of them inside or outside the fight as much as possible, even when simply farming mobs. Bless heals the entire party and it'll be incredibly annoying for halb users when they try to regen MP too because they can't.

    If you're just after the support rank, there are a lot of ways to easily take that. War Cry, Chakra, Heal, etc., just try not to heal those who don't really need it because no MP is essentially the same as no damage here in toram.
     
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  4. overwrite

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    Hi there,

    I see your love for log horizon (me too!) My gripe is there's not as much variety or awesomeness in buff/debuff skills

    I'd just like to offer another perspective to the current support types in toram. It can be split into two types: Tanky Semi Support and Squishy Full Support.

    Tanky Semi Support (staff-shields, bow)
    - may be able to deal dmg
    - may be able to tank hits/aggro in case tank dies or party screws up
    - protection+aegis (shield)
    - bless, heal, recover, healer
    - possibly any support skills you want (easy mp regain if staff)
    - but low cspd

    Squishy Full Support (Knuck+Md or Staff+Knucks)
    - Finelia as an example, focus on cap cspd and cast all support skills + chakra
    - if using gsw for motion speed, dies in one hit, but avoidable if you know boss pattern well

    Currently most players expect squishy full support, but I'd like to think that there's some freedom to building support. :) I think experienced players appreciate full support more, but less experienced players could use tanky/semi support.
     

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