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Phantom Slash & Tempest DW DPS Build Guide by makOi Lvl120

Discussion in 'Warrior' started by makOi, Nov 2, 2015.

  1. Varde

    Varde Active Member

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    I wouldn't recommend a full dex or even dex:str build...you might as well roll a 1/2 hander at that point because you are melee dps without the added benefits of what the dual class can offer.
     
  2. Alleura

    Alleura Well-Known Member

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    There is no class in the game.

    Why so much ppl, interested on off-hand damage?
    I thinks as long as you increase DEX, your main hand will stronger so your SUM of normal attack damage is not too bad as you imagine.
    Plus, your skill-based damage will be higher. Because your P.attack growth are better.
    Why still care about AGI so much.
     
  3. Islandi

    Islandi Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that is true when we only take damage into consideration.

    To have better understanding of DW (utilising AGI & DEX/AGI stats), the questions are:
    • What is it about DW that is unique that sets it apart from 1H and 2H?
    • What unique skills and strategies that AGI alone or in combination with DEX come into play for DW?
     
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  4. Varde

    Varde Active Member

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    • What is it about DW that is unique that sets it apart from 1H and 2H?
    Exactly

    Damage isn't everything. If it was then no point dual wielding other than to look flashy - might as well roll a 2hander. Even skill damage or max crits isn't a good indicator of damage per second either.
     
  5. Ergeruz

    Ergeruz Well-Known Member

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    yeah... i really love having a pinch of agi... evasion with light arm and the misses from bosses gives me the chills heheheh
     
  6. makOi

    makOi Elite Member Elite Member

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    Meh. Chill guys.
    Might take into consderation what the title is. ;)
     
  7. ♥Willow

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    Well I tried the switching my stats.
    Instead of 27 strength and 113 dex I gone for 50 agi and 90 dex.
    Can definitely say agi makes your class better than str
     
  8. makOi

    makOi Elite Member Elite Member

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    True. Sry f i havent been able to update the guide. Once my full dex 1h reach cap il update this. :)
     
  9. Islandi

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    Can you share what improvements did you observe after the switch?
    • Higher damage dealt per blow or skill/combo?
    • Faster kills?
    • Extra damage dealt from evasion attacks?
     
  10. makOi

    makOi Elite Member Elite Member

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    Only @Cypherian i seem to know who can deal 15k non smite twin slash with his dw dex+agi againts forestia. Im just waiting for him to share his vids ;)
     
  11. Ergeruz

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    wow nice TS 15k?? sweet numbers
     
  12. makOi

    makOi Elite Member Elite Member

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    Yea. Me want to see that.
     
  13. Alleura

    Alleura Well-Known Member

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    Without AGI, I can still optimize using some DS skill tree that I want to.
    Why I use Dual Sword?
    1. Free 500ASPD mastery
    2. Faster recovery MP then 1H
    3. Twin Slash is a new good DPS skill for 1H

    I am not playing dodge or evasion, is it problem with you?
    You can't said that I am not a DW class, only because I am not playing with that.
     
  14. ♥Willow

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    - My damage is higher in general.

    - Kills are definitely faster since my damage seems more stable now.

    - Not sure about that though
     
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    Of course not. You're still a DW, just doing away with dodge and evasion.
    Every player has different levels of focus and preferences on these areas for their builds in general:
    1. Offense
    2. Defense
    3. Healing & Support
    For you, you're inclined heavily to go on the offensive, dealing maximum damage you can garner.

    For other players, they may be put a bit more more weight on defense or go for a balanced build.
    But that doesn't mean they can't deal a good level of damage too. Just lower, but nevertheless still DPS, and not heavy defense like a Tank or super high evasive like a brawler.

    Do we agree that P.Atk, Crit, Speed of attacks (due to higher ASPD), Stability and DMG from combos are good indicators when we are talking about DPS for DW?
     
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    That would surely be awesome to see :eek:
     
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    Sorry, I don't understand the point.

    Speed of attack? ASPD only good when reach 1100, higher is pointless.
    I get 50AGI just because I wanna replace my F.cape+GS with War helmet+Warmonger, for more critical chance. Because I don't like using mega speed potion every time.

    I will sure to reset again, if someone really confirm that AGI will give more DPS excluding what I explain above.
     
  18. makOi

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    What i mean for DPS is aiming the Attack spot on Boss Fight.
     
  19. Islandi

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    Great! That is a clear definition / direction for "DPS" pertaining to this guide.
    Thx mak0i.
     
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  20. Varde

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    It's just preference in playstyle basically yeah.

    But even so, if you are aiming for max dps for dual wielding I think further testing is needed. The only true indicator of DPS is kill speed - which means recording times on minibosses/bosses and comparing.
     

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