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Discussion in 'Toram Online Player Feedback / Review' started by The Lost One, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. ugliest

    ugliest Well-Known Member

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    I'm not arguing the legitamacy of it per their terms. That has been established.

    I'm talking about the morality of it.
     
  2. Ericksson

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    A succinct reply would do.
    Do they all have your mindset?
    Are they you?
    Because as we know, if everyone has the same mindset as the people in this forum. Toram would be a better place.

    I've been part of running a business before, And one thing I've learned is that you cannot use one's own mindset as a pillar for processes unless one has a method of projecting it and imprinting it upon the masses.

    Not to mention kindly do account for risk management, resource management and disaster mitigation for what you have suggested on top of the dying player base which has most likely severed a bit of their revenue. No doubt the game will continue in Japan, but Internationally? On top of keeping licenses with Apple and Android? Server Maintenance? Human resources? Development? Etc. I could also go on.

    I too am tired. I am not picking a fight. Just my two cents.
     
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  3. WindSlash

    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    I think you are missing my point still. I'm not even talking about morality or legality, I'm still talking business. I am stating that however much RMTer's gain as profit is essentially something Asobimo is not earning. Toram's End User License Agreement (EULA) proclaims from the very beginning that "what we own in-game" is technically is still Asobimo's property... We just have a permission(aka a license) to use them as long as we don't breach the agreement(EULA). In this line of thinking, RMTers are selling property they do not have rights to do so; In a way, they are robbing from Asobimo in a sense.

    RMT in this case is like a resident who rents an apartment gets other people to rent a room, and those people pay that resident instead of the landlord. :V

    Heck, RMTers are lucky that all they get from Asobimo is a banhammer, and not get sued. =m=
     
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  4. Jbazt

    Jbazt Into the Forsaken Realm of Consciousness Elite Member

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    yeah many games in PC sued players for robbing, cheating, modifying their system for the purpose of underground trading. Ive watched the vid of Asobicoin and i heard a DMCA protection. maybe they will start to protect their investments with the released of that AsobiCoin coz you got to securely identify yourself asking for valid identification to fully complete the account registration.

    here are some players who got fucked up because they think its just a game. who wants to be the 1st example from Asobimo? :pogchamp:

     
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  5. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    RMT is for the brain dead who dunno how to play properly.
     
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    ajop/chise h. Well-Known Member

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    Can we all agree to immediately report anyone buying or selling spina in the shout? More entries (reports) = more chances of winning (bans)
     
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  7. Jbazt

    Jbazt Into the Forsaken Realm of Consciousness Elite Member

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    RMT is normal in all games however many misinterpreted the practical use of the word. There are cases its acceptable like for example a player will leave the game for good or if the items theyre selling were acquired via legit means. Players now just play for RMT and will do anything even if theyre violating game's Terms of Use in the process. Many even making a video on how to cheat/get spina fast illegally. I belived the kid in the above video was sued for that, that hes not only cheating, he also posted it in youtube like encouraging others to cheat it too.
     
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  8. Trcky

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    agree!:D
    all i have to say is..
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  9. HoboOnline

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    Just report him RMT will get him banned
     

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