Toram vs O&C 2 vs Avabel

So now that i have new phone i got to play androids mmorpgs and they all seem quite nice actually but i can't really play three mmorpgs at once, nor two, so i have to choose one and the reason i'm posting this on Toram's forum is because somehow Toram attracts me the most, i just don't really know why.
The thing is that Toram seems quite unknown and there's really few reviews, and i saw the most of them and i can't say that i know much about the game.
I'm 18 lvl now and i have no idea what the game is gonna be like, is the game pvp focused? pve focused? or both? What does the endgame look like, what are the classes, how do i even become something, i'm stacking points into inteligence telling myself that it's the safest stat to invest into, because the only thing i know is that i would like to use spells whatever i will become one day. My fear is that the game is heavy grindfest and i'll end up having to kill thousands of mobs to level up quite a bit.
Now for Order & Chaos 2 there's huge turn off for me, the character customization. Like 3 ugly haircuts and that's it? Really? I hate to meet someone who looks exactly the same as me.. But otherwise the game seems very attractive, colorfull, close to Wow and i've been big fan of Wow. Also it doesn't seem so much grind focused and it's much more popular, But the class system looks very weak, Toram's looks much more interesting.

Now i don't really know much about Avabel, but it looks quite nice and similar to Toram, I guess it will be a another try if those two games above fail.
So if you could recomend something or answer some of my questions, that would be really great, really anything will do.

 

Toram and Avabel are made by the same company, but the aren't similar. Avabel is an action rpg with you in full control. Also, Toram will not have pvp.

 

Well, didn't plan to start a flame, just... compare them in peace and calm

 

Toram's 'class system' is much more interesting because it doesn't have an explicitly defined class system, thus giving power to the player.

 

I see, no pvp then, that's quite a shame, but can't really say i can imagine good pvp system on touchscreen.
About the class system, well it's looks nice, but i've heard that some builds that seem fine on first look get really weak and so i fear that it might be like few viable builds and everything other weak, which is not much of a freedom.
So what's with the endgame? some nice dungeons/raids? or what do you do when you reach the maximum level or so

 

what did you dislike about O&C2?

 

Toram is still in development, so you can expect a lot from it.
it does not have PvP and fighting in a party brings lots of benefits, so it's definitely PvE.

there are no classes in Toram. you can freely choose everything to create a unique character.
the only limitations are the weapon categories. there are 4 main weapons to choose from, each group usually has different variants of that weapon (like 1-handed and 2-handed swords) and if your weapon is 1-handed, you can also use a sub-weapon.
each of the main weapons has preferred stats (to support the fighting style of the weapon), but choosing other stats doesn't hurt either, you can really do what you want to do.

i don't know avabel, but Toram is the successor of Iruna (the developpers said so) and improves it in many ways.
i heard avabel was the first of Asobimo's games and also the most well-known, but since Toram is the newest (and the one that was choosen to be international) it is on an ascending star and will surely surpass all previous MMORPGs.

 

its not because of the touchscreen (avabel uses touchscreen and has pvp). It's just that the game wouldn't work well with it (as intended by developers, not players).
Also try to look around at builds others have tried (and not ones that are pretty much copies of others). There being not much freedom is not the case. In the case of 'mainstream' build it may seem like there isn't much variety, but there are players out there that may use build that would be out of the ordinary.

 

Yeah, that was just my personal opinion about pvp on touchscreen
I see, is there any possibility of reseting stat points in case i go way too free and *uck my build up?

 

You would either have to buy restat items (may cost real money) or reset your character and re-level up (which many player that I know have done).
The latter is preferred imo, but if you h8 to re-grind or have some cash to spend, then the former may be better.

 

Thank you sir for so much answers

So are the characters divided into roles? like tanks / dps / healers or something? I would like to be something that has buffs or some supportive spells, healing at least, but still be able to play alone, without party or so

 

You have a restat book and a reskill book for free. Anymore you have to pay for or get from event. Also a Mage with bless would work for you. Bless is a healing spell that occurs over time based on your max int. In the priest tree.

 

When you start of you get gifted a book of oblivion which is able to reset your points and keep your level so yes, but once you use that it will then cost orbs (which cost real money) but you also have multiple character slots

 

they generally are, but as gamer terminology. The player technically creates their class.

to throw out some frequently used terminology: tank, support, dps, sniper, mage, archer, breaker, brawler, swordie, 1h, 2h, dw, etc (the list goes on)
as for figuring out how to create "your" class, experiment or try looking at other peoples builds found throughout this forum.

 

ok, got it, thanks so what about the dungeons? are there even any? still not sure what is that content they are adding with the patches.

 

understood, thanks

 

Order and Chaos... never tried that well it didn't seem as eye catching as Asobimo games lol.

As for the difference between Toram and Avabel. Avabel doesn't have much of or any story line to it what so ever xD. Toram like Iruna (another Asobimo game) has a storyline to it. Toram imo seems like another Iruna but eh better looking xD. Toram like Iruna seems highly stat and highly gear based.

Avabel on the other hand is not only armor and gear based but requires player skill as well. (Well what I mean by player skill is eh... its not just standing there and tapping skills. You actually have to attack, dodge and roll a lot more.)

Oh yeah forgot to mention Avabel is HUGE on pvp. (Well there's PvP, GvG and WvW)

Then there's updates... Toram gets a looot more updates then Avabel. (Sometimes I wish Avabel had some fancier update)

And as for social environment I'd rate Toram as way better than Avabel in social environment. Well Toram players seem a lot friendlier. Though I'd guess probably because Avabel is small on updates and... well most players on Avabel seem to spend more time strangling each other in pvp then helping each other on quests xD. (Oh yeah... Toram has way more quests then Avabel.)

Imo ... Avabel seems like eh... SAO and I guess Toram... seems like eh....ALO? xD

Oh heads up all Asobimo games are grindfests lool. It just depends on how you want to grind by being more interactive and flexibile in movement in grinding or.... just standing there and poking buffs, pots and attack buttons.

Oh if you like Toram... Izanagi and Iruna is pretty similar to Toram and are both made by Asobimo.

Then there's Stellacept (another Asobimo game) which imo is like a mix of the 3 games above and a bit of Avabel.