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Trigger Slash or Shadow Step? (AMPR)

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by -Kazuki-, Sep 16, 2017.

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More AMPR?

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  2. Shadow Step

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  3. It's the same..

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  1. -Kazuki-

    -Kazuki- Well-Known Member

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    Hello.. i just started using DW(i'm thinking of trying something new).. and i'm planning to make a AMPR build..
    Just one question..
    Which skill gives the player more AMPR? Trigger Slash or Shadow Step? Or is it the same?
    Thank you..
     
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  2. Azin.

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    both trigger slash and shadow step gives +20 ampr.. shadow hast crt buff and trigger has motion buff in the next skill.. me as a ampr build.. i use both
     
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    hahaha how funny that ur profile picture is DW and ur a member since dec, 2016 and ure saying you just started DW XD

    just want to point that out
     
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  4. Azin.

    Azin. Brawler Enthusiast Elite Member

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    its possible that he just switched his profile recently...
     
    Azin., Sep 16, 2017
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    Lvl 10 trig slash or shadowstep gives only 10ampr for DW
     
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  6. Azin.

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    they double the base ampr dont they.. dw has 20 base ampr so its 20 ampr right?
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Yep
     
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  8. I robot

    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    Hold it, There are ways to increase base AMPR. also, dw lets out Multiple attacks, so the +4 increases to like, +16.
    that's one of my fav things.
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    The only way to increase base ampr is by being a dw, u get +10 from the 10 base other weapons have, so dw is 20 base ampr, trigger/s,step can dbl that if skill lvl is 10 and ampr from gear/mp is x2 and isnt affected by trigger/s,step
     
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    I remember cyph telling me ampr effects trigger but not max MP
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Mhm Cyph said to me about it too but in the end i was right, 3types of ampr, base ampr, gear ampr, mp ampr, trigger/s,step10 is 100% base ampr, so +10 for non dw and +20 for dw, for dw mp ampr and gear ampr is x2 and cannot be further increased by trigger/s,step, for non dw gear/mp ampr is x1 and cannot be further increased by trigger/s,step
    Dw ampr
    Base 20 (+100% with either trigger/s,step10)
    Mp ampr x2 (cannot be increased by trigger/s,step)
    Gear ampr x2 (includes ava) (cannot be increased by trigger/s,step)
    Non dw
    Base 10 (+100% with either trigger/s,step10)
    Mp ampr x1 (cannot be increased by trigger/s,step)
    Gear ampr x1 (includes ava) (cannot be increased by trigger/s,step)
     
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  12. -Kazuki-

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    changed my profile pic like a few hours ago lol
     
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    wait, you're saying that t.slash/s.step lv 10 gives +100% base ampr, so does that mean it adds +10% ampr each lv? like my s.step is lv7 now, so does this mean i have +70% base ampr w/ my s.step?
     
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  14. BK

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    Yep, u currently get +14ampr from lvl7
     
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    i see, thanks. that helps A LOT xD
    and one more question, should i distribute my points to Sober Analysis since i'm making AMPR build(?)
     
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  16. BK

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    Sober analysis is kinda useless, gives no ampr but 10mp per 3secs, so 1bar per 30secs, mpup10 would be the better option as that gives 300 and 6ampr for dw
     
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  17. -Kazuki-

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    oh okay, thanks (again,lol) xD
     
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    Ohh yeah x2 from base so lvl 10 trig is 20ampr for DW
     
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    Hold on, I just tested to see how many times I would have to attack, with and without the T.Slash buff, to regenerate 10MP bars (1h with no other equips), but both times it took 31 total hits; am I doing something wrong?
     
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  20. BK

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    If no other ampr stuff like ava etc and just sword, 1h with 10base ampr and 1k mp would need around 50autos depending on excess mp, depending on trigger lvl it would need around 33autos
     
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