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Haru's Complete Refining Guide

Discussion in 'Production Class' started by HaruChan, Aug 25, 2016.

  1. Precaria

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    I was wondering the same.. since using either Orichalcum or Hematite the % stops dropping at 1%. So they technically end up being the same..? Unless the refinement items act differently on them (with their original values).
     
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    Omg thank you for pointing them out. Its supposed to be
    iron to +8
    Dama steel to +9
    Mithril to +E
    Orichalcum to +D

    I think i messed up somewhere in the beginning >< ill edit all of em now!
     
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    Yes the refinement items acts differently, ill be adding the refinement items calculations soon! Still calculating atm ><
     
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    @Vocal~ its all edited >< is it the same now?:)
     
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    Degree difficulty of 23-24
    14% Success rate with 9 risk can be obtained if you use:
    Iron to +9
    HP iron/Dama ore to +E
    HP dama/Mithril ore to +D
    HP mithril/Orichalcum ore to +C
    HP orichalcum to +B

    Degree difficulty of 25
    6% Success rate with 10 risk can be obtained if you use:
    Iron to +9
    HP iron/Dama ore to +E
    HP dama/Mithril ore to +D
    HP mithril/Orichalcum ore to +C
    HP orichalcum to +B

    thxx for the edit >~<
    but just wondering since hp ori to b is 9crack/risk...
    why is there different success rate and crack both using hp ori to b...?
     
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    Orichalcum to +B at difficulty 25*
    Edited >< thank you so much for helping to point out the mistakes >< i guess my eyes was blur after seeing those numbers x.x
     
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    appreicated the effort >~<
    np sorry forgot another one =w='''
    Degree difficulty of 23-24
    14% Success rate with 9 risk can be obtained if you use:
    Iron to +9
    HP iron/Dama ore to +E
    HP dama/Mithril ore to +D
    HP mithril/Orichalcum ore to +C
    HP orichalcum to +B

    Degree difficulty of 25
    6% Success rate with 10 risk can be obtained if you use:
    Iron to +9
    HP iron/Dama ore to +E
    HP dama/Mithril ore to +D
    HP mithril/Orichalcum ore to +C
    orichalcum to +B



    HP iron/Dama ore to +E
    HP dama/Mithril ore to +D
    HP mithril/Orichalcum ore to +C
    9crack or 10crack... :"D?
     
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    As a player who makes a "living" off of these services- especially refinement, I appreciate you putting all the time and research into all of this-- Idk if the graph is 100% accurate, but it is definitely off to an amazing start! I'm positive this has the potential to become a sacred thread to many of us Smiths and Alcs -- who will find this very useful in the future ;) -- Your guide is in my bookmarks page now :3 <3

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    1000000/10 guide
     
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    So that explain why Orihalcum can refine to +S (cap 95)
     
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    should be 10 cracks.. have u tried the others for
    HP iron/Dama ore to +E
    HP dama/Mithril ore to +D ? is it 9 or 10 cracks :O it must be my error ><
     
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    Ok just calculated everything again to make sure its correct >< it should have no mistakes now (or maybe i missed out again D:!)
     
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    yup no mistakes now XD (unless i miss out too)
    >~> refine S with hema and hp ori has same success rate XD?
    .-./ time to mass farm eerie for hema...
     
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    no it doesnt have the same success rate >< im still working on the refinement items which affects success rates :p probably posted by tomorrow if no errors ><
     
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    thxx must have too a huge bulk of time :"DDDD

    (was wondering since ores with no support item all =1%success rate at S)....?
     
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    Btw.... are u sure Dama Ore to 9 is 30% success? I gamble about a stk Dama Ore but still +8.......
     
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    Checked! According to the calculations it is >< did u use 1stack ore only from +8 to +9? Or when u failed, u went to below +8 and u tried to +8 again, then +9. Cuz +8 is below 50% too. So might have wasted alot trying to +8. Maybe just unlucky ><
     
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    Good job. Help me a lot
     
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    I was wondering that did u use degree/lvl of difficulty to calculate the success rate?cuz lvl of diff 14-15=0% success rate so how did u calculate the success rate and find it it to b 62% ?_?
    (Noob in refinement so will ask these kind of silly questions from time to time :"D)
     
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    The 0% is the base value. Which means without tech, without tech skills etc, its 0% success (counted as 1%). Which means if u go to NPC blacksmith trying to refine using haematite to +6, or dama ore to +7, mitril ore to +8 etc. the risk is 10 with 1% chance of passing.
    But if u are a player smith, the amount of tech u have and the skills u have increases the success rate. It is calculated by this formula. 0+255/4+15 x 0.8 which is = 62(to the lowest denominator) 4 and 15 is fixed value in the formula, 0 is the base success value u get from calculating the lvl of difficulty at 14-15. 255 is the tech at cap. 0.8 comes from the 3 tech skills amplifying the success rate
     
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