Haru's Complete Refining Guide

Bump! Any comments from the veterans with refiner toon about my queries?

 

U need max tech.
E.g. U wanna use haematite to +8, that will be leve of difficulty of 20; which has a base success rate of -40
Formula for player blacksmith success rate = 0.8(Base success rate+(255/4)+15).

If u have full tech, it will be:
0.8(-40+(255/4)+15) = 30%

So if u have 0 tech, it becomes
0.8(base success rate+(0/4)+15) = -20% chance of u to pass using haematite to +8

 

Thanks for the reply and that sucks. So to refine my shield to further +9 i need to reset skillpoints + stats to tec 2X. Dem thats ripping off when the reset book/stats is from chest with a small ℅ i assume. Not so asobimo, the most free2play mmorpg company i used to know for years.

 

Or u can buy refine services from @Vocal~ :3 Trusted refiner ^^

 

Also i edited the previous post with more explaination and examples to help u understand why

 

Yep i think i need tech. Im just curious so i got many questions. The refining tree got 3 lvl skill 1, intermeddiate lvl, advanced lvl. Just want to know what are the boundaries of this lvls. Because if skill lvl1 is from +1- +9 and if the tech is only applied to skill 1, i dont mind reaching +6-9 with mithril/ori with regular fees if it saves me from going full tec stats. Sorry for more questions

 

Hahaha my gears all not tradeable and i dont trust services even a well known ign here did scam couple of days ago so guess im stuck with +9

 

(Dont really understand what ur qns is >< ) i assume ur asking what skills is tech applied on and what if u only have "Refine Equipment" skill and 0 tech? Or are u asking what skills is tech applied on and what if u have all the 3 skills but 0 tech? Ill answer them both eitherways lmao xd

Ok, tech applies to all the 3 skills together. They are interrelated.

From the formula to calculate player's success rate: 0.8(base success rate+tech/4)+15),
All the 3 skills contributes to the value 0.8 and 15. If u only have "refine equipment" skill, then these 2 values will decrease.

The value 15 only comes from mid and high class refinement. And all the 3 skills contributes to the value 0.8.

Calculating this.. Without mid and high class refinement, the value 15 becomes 0 and the value 0.8 becomes 0.6. U said u dont wanna restat to tech, so assuming u have 0 tech points,
Formula becomes: 0.6(base success rate+0tech/4).

Using the example i used just now,

If u have full tech and all 3 skills and full tech, success rate is 30% to +8 using haematite.

Now lets apply this to the new formula with only "Refine Equipment" skill and NO tech
0.6(base success rate+0tech/4)= 0.6(-40) = -24%

If u have all the 3 skills and 0 TECH,
Success rate is -20%

Negative values are always counted as 1% so either ways base success rate will be 1% for the 2 scenerios above. U wouldnt want to bet on 1% if u are using haematite to +8 lmao (well u can if u have alot of time to LOL). But since u mentioned u dont mind using things like mithril and oris to refine, u can do trial and error calculation and see which combinations of skills/stats is best for u to refine ur equipment to +9. It will take a long time for this lmao very tedious calculations and there is high chance that u will need both tech and lvl up ur skill tree to do this (idk i never tried non max tech or non max skill techsmith). I suggest u to jus dont refine the soulbound equipment until u get a player crafted one and just get refiners to refine it for u. That would save alot of time and trouble.

And i can vouch for @Vocal~ Cuz i use his refining services since a long time ago and never fails. U can check out his thread where many ppl buy from him. The price is not expensive too ^^

 

Thanks for a

Thanks for your clarification. Actually all my gears aleady on +9 with no refine skills and with just using the BS regular fees and its pretty easy compared to iruna+9 btw. The blacksmith wont allow me to refine to +E,D,C,etc and i need BS skills to do that. So based on your formula it is possible to refine to +9 furthur with just the 3 skills still even without tec but the success rate be lower compared with 255 tec. Tyvm for the replies

 

Oh yeah i completely forgot about the NPC BS existence hahaha xD Np glad i could help

 

Thanks fo this awesome guide!!
I was wondering whether dex stat affects refining at all? ty

 

As far as i know, it does not affect refining.

 

thanks,
you do know that it increases crafting difficult level right?

 

Yup

 

Okay, thanks for the quick reply ^^

 

Hmm....
Have lil question here...

If I want refine to +S, should I refine my Eq up to +C with Hematite then +B with Dama ore?

For example :
I want to refine my eq to +S. I already refined my eq to +A (with that ore procedure) and I wanna refine it to +S but it was degraded to +C. Should I use Dama ore again to reach +B then Mithril Ore to touch +A again?

Some case, I refine with random method, for example I refine with orichalum from +0 to +B is the success rate get different if I want to refine it to +A?

I just wondering that whenever I reading your post..
**sry bad eng

 

Sorry i dont quite understand xD lemme try*~*

 

Im guessing ur trying to ask:

1. If I want refine to +S, should I refine my Eq up to +C with Hematite then +B with Dama ore?
Answer: i dont think u use haematite to +C and Dama ore to +B ._. Sorry i cant give u much advice on how to +S cuz i dont +S my own equips *~* i buy the services xD

2. From your example, r u asking:
Does the ore u used from 0 to +B affect your success rate from +B to +A?

Answer: no the success rate from +B to +A is the same no matter what ore u previously used to get to +A

 

Hmm...
Simply, If my eq degraded, should I use same method to get the refine level back or random ores is ok?

 

Different ore is ok, no need same method ^^