Mage rant

Archer not gonna beat mage. Katana too not gonna go down to bottom so easily.
Dragon tooth is too op if anything thats gonna beat archer easily since its a broken skill which completely negates enemy defense.

A 100k non prorated by a gm char can easily be 1.5m+ with an actual full fledged mage a spammer class can only win if the fight goes on for too long, for short runs the boss will be dead before they even get ready to spam.
Also your comparision with this and a real life abusive relationship makes 0 sense honestly this is just a game not a lifestyle

 

i might have taken the comparison a few notches up but it does makes sense. Mages being the shittiest for year/s gets a buff then i'll be just told to move on. Like seriously? it's been a long problem and the past few patches didnt even favor the mages (barely released a new weapon, a buffed magic lances that didnt even worked well at the beginning).

 

I thought That HP reduction is from poison debuff not skill effect

 

Unless ur dmg was comparable to a luck mage then it's kinda understandable. As a mage main, I do more dps than half the people I party with when I go to boss runs. You don't need magic lance or other skills to do dps if u rely on smited storm. I've out dps'd multiple classes with a simple arrow mage. Your argument only targets the bad team prorating arrow mages give, weapon releases, and the buff of magic lance.

1. Why gaf about team prorating when u can just kill the boss yourself? Ur a dps aren't u? You shouldn't need others to hit in order for you to do dmg.
2. Weapon releases? Bruhhh you must be hella broke to not know about elemental stats. You can out dps multiple classes with this thing called elemental damage that does a whooping 25% DMG!!!
3. Magic lance dmg? You realllllyyy looked forward to magic lance dmg? Sure it'll be nice and all to have magic lance but it'll add more time into casting just for an extra 30-50k damage.

Last of all mages aren't the shittiest class nor the most shunned. Imo they're the most loved because you're able to make them early on and are able to start farming materials which allow you to make money. You don't see other classes at cassy other than md (Unless they're a leech~Autokick<3). "Shield mage is the most all around build and the best overall among any other mage builds...greatly beating mages DPS wise." This quote greatly makes me saddening. When u can out dps arrow mages with a SHIELD MAGE but not any other classes. Sir can I have a picture of your gears? I would like to compare notes like
This rant was just a waste of time reading. Please place evidence of being shunned and your build so we can see if it a valid argument or not.

 

Arrow mage is not a good example. A build based in destroy pt dmg for can hold ataker is pretty nub. There are op mages that keep pt dmg stable and still can deal tons of dmg^~^.

 

Indeed it is. The skill doesnt cost any HP to use.

 

100k on MD but not with staff

>"Why gaf about team prorating when u can just kill the boss yourself"
Sorry i never knew that farming bosses is more efficient if you solo them.

Most all around
Again read that

I never said the dps of the arrowmage<shieldmage
what im saying is that in a team comp a shieldmage perfroms better due to its survivability, buffs and it doesnt destroy the proration of a Bow/BG

 

I think I'm okay what they're planning for the mages. I'm not really in much for that numbers but how each weapon type works. Mages work in the vanguard so pretty safe with incoming aoes compared to melee classes. While other weapon types can still use mp charge+maximizer I don't think it's a safe option, mp charge cast time at lvl 10 for other weapon types is still slow and using mp charge as a close range fighter seems deadly so that's why mages have the perk of faster mp charge. Although there's one thing I'm worried about though, Magic : Finaw is literally a ticking time bomb, and if it's interrupted the other effects is still applied. The 1600 AP it gives is no joke, this would literally make mages a mob magnet now stealing archer's former title. Although while I already use Sneak attack, it's a better trade for 400 AP in exchange for 1600 AP before to negate the aggro from the magic skills, the description of Magic : Finaw bothers me. It says that it will generate aggro while casting it so worst case scenario, finaw can bypass sneak attack's effects x.x

 

I don't think that's an MD exclusive but the conditions the magic : Finaw gives.

 

"Shield Mage is the most all around build and the best overall among any other mage builds but any other class going full vit after maxing their main stat just has almost the same survivability while also greatly beating mages DPS wise."

You dont need a full team of dps when u can have prorators and a tank there goes ur argument of aggro from arrow mages as well. If u wanna talk about team play then just bring a friend thats a tank, stay inside their guardian skill. Hell I can tank zahhak as an arrow mage while getting atkr rank. Unless ur just staying in one spot the whole time, its impossible to die.

 

yea rewatched the vid and it;s actually from the poison, my bad

 

Hooked on that beating mages dps wise
Also that gear check sir

 

Im on my pc, but my MATK is only 2.4k and 10kHP 1.1kMana. For xtals, im using ECB and only a tortuga for armor. Ooze2 for add. And only int+4 on my special.
staff (146) is m7i7i14 and armor m7i7(no cspd14 yet) All +B and only 2 elemental staves (light and water) which isnt refined

My equipment is only mid-tier even though i started playing 2 years ago but im only a casual player (220hours spent on this game)

Your argument is flawed, I was saying that Shield mage is the most all around of the builds and is versatile to diffirent parties. If youre gonna bring up a dedicated full pt. then you might as well get an actual DPS class

 

uhmm.. mage is the weakest now? this makes me disagree more than other said brawler is the weakest class

since 3 years ago . mage has been an OP class bec its the only magical damage role in toram. so proration is mage's advantage even til now.
with perfect time/placed storm, your damage also can deal more than other class at comparable equipment.

dps between mages :
shield mage is not pure dps. (more i can say, its a mage with additional skill to stun and lil bit tanky yet deals a lil bit less dmg) in term dps , arrow/dagger mage deals more damage than shield. with assumptions both use same gears.
however regarding staff fu, its more make sense to me. last 10 updates arenot in favor of hybrid/ fu class. its kinda sad for fu user. or.... maybe theres a hope at martial lv 4 skills

survivability between mages :
first thing is survivability depends on how good the pilot (player) analyzing boss pattern and stuff. each mage type has its pro and cons. IMO arrow is the one who has more survivability bec its easier to combo-cancelling during battle w arrow mage than dagger/shield mage so it makes them more mobile and agile against boss pattern.

 

I can tell that you're playing your mage wrong, boi.

 

must be fun farming cassy and nightmare roars. or just spam it in sykea for mats.

 

Sorry, my nub ass with 3k matk nuetral staff, 1.8k mp isnt an actual dps. I'm also a casual player thats been playing for 3 yrs however only around 3.6k hours within the game. Sadly to say Im not as pro as u nor am I an actual DPS class.

 

I wonder how much damage can finale do when impact smited. Lol. 10mp combo is feasible especially with the new mp regen skill. Can be spammed every 6 seconds. Lol. Aggro would be a problem tho.

 

-10% aggro on staff
-10% aggro on arm
-25% on ring.

That would bring it to about 9mp aggro. Sacrifice a bit of damage for less aggro, i think it can be done.

 

Well that's actually it, the reason youre out DPSing the other DPS class is since youve already reached the late game while im sure those youve out-dps are only on their mid-game
Any other DPS class with the same spina spent can surely outDPS you. Why not try joining the DPS tourney here in the forum to see if your Arrow mage is actually the best DPS-wise?

And your sarcasm doesnt really fit well here since i was dead serious saying that i wasnt strong enough comapred to a late-game player like you.
Must be fun right? dedicating 3.6k hours of your life then telling a casual player like me that im a pro. Pls save some pussies for us