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Upgrade Equipment Stat list and Rough Pot. Usage [Lvl. 80]

Discussion in 'Production Class' started by BlahBlahBlackSheep, Dec 20, 2015.

  1. xGUI

    xGUI Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. Now i know end pots HAHA XD
     
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  2. nirvash0074

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    Can you help me in to make c888 sword of sin with pot36?
    Is this possible or not, if yes can you teach me, or if not any suggestion and recommendations? Thank you
     
  3. HenRiz

    HenRiz Well-Known Member

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    if I want to make a 4%Matk and 4%int staff.. what the average pot staff i should buy? Tq again ^^
     
  4. BlahBlahBlackSheep

    BlahBlahBlackSheep Well-Known Member

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    Hello,

    As mentioned earlier, there are two ways to make C888 in equipments,

    1
    Adding all three stats in a single step, using a total of 58pot


    2
    Adding the three stats in three different steps, i.e. add the stat that uses the most pot first, then followed by the next stat and finally the third stat. So the steps would be:

    Step 1. add cdmg8 click ok
    Step 2. add crit8 click ok
    Step 3. add crit8% click ok


    Regarding your question of adding C888 into a 1HS (Sword of Sin) of 36pot,

    Method 1 is not feasible.
    > adding all 3 stats in a single step uses 58pot.
    > Weapon of 36pot - 58pot = -22pot
    > 0% chance of success (refer to this ---> Click Me. Look under 36pot)

    The weapon does not have enough pot for Method 1 to work. Method 1 requires a minimum potential of 40pot, (i.e. 6% chance)


    Method 2 could be feasible.
    Step 1
    > add cdmg8 click ok, uses 24pot.
    > weapon of 36pot - 24pot = 12pot

    Step 2
    > add crit8 click ok, uses 9pot? (estimated)
    > weapon of 12pot - 9pot = 3pot

    Step 3
    > add crit8% click ok, uses 11pot? (estimated)
    > weapon of 3pot - 11pot = -8pot
    > 0% chance of success (refer to this ---> Click Me.)

    [Change crit 8% to crit 7% and you should be able to actually try for the stat]


    > add crit7% click ok, uses 10pot? (estimated)
    > weapon of 3pot - 10pot = -7pot
    > 2% chance of success (refer to this ---> Click Me.)


    *note on method 2,
    > Only works if the estimate of 9pot and 11pot for steps 2 and 3 are correct.

    > you have to put crit7% instead, that way you should have about either 2% or 18% chance of success, that allows you to try for the addition of the stats. Nonetheless it's still a gamble.

    > for equipments of Overall Potentials 1pot to 15pot, the chances of success for negative End Potentials are the same.

    Example A:
    >Equipment of 3pot
    >After addition of stats becomes -4pot
    >Success rate at second step is based on an equipment of 15pot and is 48%

    Example B:
    >Equipment of 15pot
    >After addition of stats becomes -4pot
    >Success rate is 48%

    Final Note:

    I haven't tried method 2 on a 1HS. (no mana pts and blah blah…) but it should be relatively accurate. :x. C888 might not be possible on a 1HS as of yet, but C887 could be possible.
     
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  5. BlahBlahBlackSheep

    BlahBlahBlackSheep Well-Known Member

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    Hello,

    Generally, you would want a staff or equipment to have as much Potential as possible.

    But… to answer your question, (this is just my estimate :x), the lowest Potential for a Staff to actually let you try for Int4% and Matk4% (with a neg stat which gives +22pot), would be maybe around 32pot. That would give you a chance of success maybe around 2 to 5%? Which actually lets you to try for the addition of Int4% and Matk4%.

    My guess is that the Potential Range for the staff would be from 32pot to (whatever the highest pot for staffs is right now).

    not sure if that answers your question :x.
     
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  6. nirvash0074

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    Okey tnx for your analysis interpretation and conclusion
    Every helpful :)
     
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  7. Eninshi

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    Hi I have a question does BASE BS prof affects success of refining and adding stats?? i have a BS Alhce pure tech but my Base BS prof is just 10 do i need to level up mga BS prof for more succesful refine and stat add????
     
  8. HestiaBell

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    so whats the best trick to make 4% int 4% matk? im so confused
     
  9. MazterSamzz

    MazterSamzz Well-Known Member

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    Bro, i want to ask how to read this
    If i make +8 Str i got - 5 pot, or i got - 5 pot each +1 str? :)
     
  10. BlahBlahBlackSheep

    BlahBlahBlackSheep Well-Known Member

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    Hello Eninshi,
    Nope, Base Blacksmith Proficiency does not affect the success rate of 'Refine Equipment' and 'Upgrade Equipment' (Adding stats).

    For a higher rate of Refining equipment, you would need to add more Tech, the personal stat.

    For adding stats, it's always at a 100% success rate unless the stats that you wish to add exceeds the equipment's potential. At that point the success rate is determined by the amount of potential an equipment has.

    Example A
    Weapon of 28 Potential
    Add stats that uses 24pot
    -> 28pot - 24pot = 4 pot (End Pot)
    100% success rate.

    Example B
    Weapon of 20 Potential
    Add Stats that uses 24pot
    -> 20pot - 24pot = -4 pot (End Pot)
    64% success rate

    Example C
    Weapon of 22 potential
    Add Stats that uses 26pot
    -> 22pot - 26pot = -4 pot (End Pot)
    68% success rate

    Note: although examples B and C has similar End Pot, the success rate is different due to the Differing Overall Potential. (Click for more information --> Click.)

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    Hello Hestia,
    The only trick that I'm aware of is to add the negative stat first, then add Int4% and Matk4% in a second step (Refer to Example A).
    If you add both stats and the negative stats all in a single step, your success rate is lower (refer to example B). Example C is the other option but it doesn't work for this case. :(. For more information read --> Click.

    Example A
    Equipment of 44pot

    Step 1: Add -2% Natural Mp regen
    -> 44pot + 21pot = 65pot

    Step 2: Add Int 4% and Matk 4%
    -> 65pot - 40pot - 40pot = -15pot
    -> Success rate of roughly about 56–57%.


    Example B
    Equipment of 44pot

    Step 1: Add -2% Natural Mp regen and Int 4% and Matk 4%
    -> 44pot + 21pot - 40pot - 40pot = -15pot
    -> Success rate of roughly about 31%. (Refer to this --> Click.)


    Example C
    Equipment of 44pot

    Step 1: Add -2% Natural Mp regen
    -> 44pot + 21pot = 65pot

    Step 2: Add Int 4%
    -> 65pot - 40pot = 25pot
    -> 100% success rate

    Step 3: Add Matk 4%
    -> 25pot - 40pot = -15pot
    -> 0% success rate (Refer to this --> Click.)

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    Hello Mazter,
    This
    > The maximum and Minimum Stats for Str you can add using a Level 80 Blacksmith
    > The amount of potential you use when you add a +1 value and the amount of potential you get back when you add a -1 value of the stat, for weapons, in this case, Str.
    > The amount of potential you use when you add a +1 value and the amount of potential you get back when you add a -1 value of the stat, for Armors, in this case, Str.


    if you add +8 Str, you use 8 x 5pot = -40pot. So "- 5 pot each +1 str" is correct :)
     
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  11. MazterSamzz

    MazterSamzz Well-Known Member

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    Ok thank you thanks for the details
     
  12. CLF

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    Hello :)

    Does the Blacksmith Prof effects the succes rate of Upgrading equipment ?
     
  13. Sincity

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    Hi i hav ppl telling me proficiency of tech bs affect on pot consumtion. Is that true if tech bs with higher prof uses less pot per putting stat? Im confused too many superstition@.@
     
  14. Sincity

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    so just quick question about upgrading a mage armor.. putting int4%matk4% is impossible for now right?
     
  15. Ijnek

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    Well i bought a kcoat with pot 49 and i would like to know if it would be possible to put int8 int4% on it and what would the success rate be? Thanks sheep nice guide you have here.
     
  16. Ancholy

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    Hi, I'm really sorry but Ive been reading some guides about Blacksmithing and Im still confused about the following:
    - Negative Stats
    - A full guide of BS (Stats and skill levels)
    - How stats and potential works
    - Success Rates
    - When to put Tec

    Im really sorry I'm so new to this and trying to understand things. Hope you can consider teaching me what to do.
    BTW, im interested in making armors.
    Have a great day!
     
  17. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    nope that is reliant on tech stat and your bs lvl
     
  18. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    yes it only possible on staffs
     
  19. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    put a negative stat first p.pierce. your should have enough pot to stat, I'm not sure about success but it should be decent :)
     
  20. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    I suggest you read this guides by @Nova One hes a awesome blacksmith.
    part 1
    http://toramonline.com/index.php?th...highest-potential-equipment-part-1-of-2.8687/

    part 2

    http://toramonline.com/index.php?th...s-to-equipment-with-a-synth-on-the-side.8811/
     
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