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Next Balance Patch Dreams

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by ViPR, Feb 1, 2019.

  1. The Lost One

    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    That's the biggest question here.
    Ummm... Okay I get your point why you posted that video.

    Anyway, those manual evade/guard sure do sound great but I believe it will only negate a damage once and with the boss patterns recently, like melee dps classes can actually benefit from that while Range however will take this as a huge advantage.

    It does ensure you to avoid being 1 hit ko but it has cooldown so if ever the boss pattern in the future is the same as the current event boss, mehhhh still end up dying for melee class.

    Try playing Melee dps without P.def. Let us know what you can say about it^^/
     
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  2. Jbazt

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    hmmm so you concluding the guard button will be a reworked existing function? that it will not be just a boost to whats existing? the evasion was clearly a rework. how about the guard? the choice between heavy light armor debatable due to this game routes direction and opinions and DPS tends to pick light because of the heavy armor's negative effect. thats one of the thing many melee dont realize that being close to the boss can be risky.
    like ive said ive been with random meelee dps in bosses that many are considering anti melee and thats what ive observed that some truly stay there with proper combo timing, and positioning with knowledge of the boss patterns . just random parties (always) what more if im in a guild, got regular farm buddies.
    for someone who rely on pdef to tank, they dont really need such skills. infact vit might not be needed on those tank too coz whats the use of it when u will aways never get damage right? plus for 100% mental if for ailment right? so just like they saying, its nice for a tank to not move at all because they kinda bragging that despite of game got mobile boss. because whats the use of the full stats when you will just end up dogding by manually moving away to atk danger zone too? theyre immortal with just pdef + decoy right? on what difficulty?
     
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    Spamming meteor breaker to take advantage of 2 seconds invincibilty without a combo also works a bit, I can spam meteor costing 600 mp on my 1h/shield dps every 3 seconds as long as me and my decoy are both attacking, it works if you sport a full ampr set lol, I'm using tapir and titeres on special, zoe xtal on additional, as well as wearing lil empress garb for that +10 ampr, and ems and zega 3 on my proto clarity, I did manage to solo the new valentine boss with it but it took around 2 mins, and I was just using buster blade and tempest so to attack from a distance while my decoy is doing ampr to avoid all the spikes and have time to P.def and breathing room to defend against those %$#@ waves, that wave attack lasts more than 2 seconds so spamming meteor on it is a bad idea as you'll die immediately upon landing lol
     
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  4. SUS

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    It guards multiple
    Just depends on how much damage it guards and that evade is op for finale
     
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  5. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Maybe the new evade/guard feature is only available if you have light/heavy arm and the armor mastery skill just lowers the cooldowncooldowncooldown or improves their guard power/evade distance.
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    And no....I'm not fixing the "cool down" above.....
    FIX THE DAMN FORUM!!
     
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  6. SUS

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    Blame devs for spoiling it so early without giving full info
     
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  7. Jbazt

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    more likely the guard button lvl affects duration , added rate/power and the cooldown before it can be use again. but if its a heavy armor next tier still hanging uncertain due to lack of infos. tho its very unlikely it will leave the other previous skill completely useless. but we dont know how Pervert Suzuki is.
     
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    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Heavy armor mastery be like :
    Guard duration +0,2s x *skill level*,
    Guard power +1% x *skill level*.
    Guard cool down -0,5% x *skill level*
     
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  9. The Lost One

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    I think the devs nerfed the invincibility of meteor from 2 to seconds to 1 sec now. Not sure about it.

    Well yeah, I do not see any problem seeing 1 hand shield do something outrageous like soloing that boss because it has p-def and meteor.^^

    Good job for soloing it. 2hs,halberd,katana will envy your survivability.^^/ Not gonna include DW maybe because it can solo as well (probably).
     
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    Now that is so broken. =,=
     
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  11. Shiroito

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    The problem I was trynna stating and failed to (sorry, english is not my mother tongue) is even once manual guard/eva get released, them having sorta cooldown will make them a only-once kinda lifesaver because bosses spam so much aoe/spikes/waves that turn the battlefield into a mine nightmare so even if u avoid one of the hits the cooldown will turn against you within the next waves.
    And my char is heavily focused on survival (even in detriment of DPS). My efforts while fighting this kind of bosses are focused on surviving while spamming some buster blade for DPS and heals. Several times I found myself as the last pt member alive and non being able to regain mp to recover pt member nor ditch out some damage so the battle ended up taking more minutes than it is worth for me.

    I do agree with you in the DPS train thing since most of builds are focused towards damage output. For example, for me the battle skills are absolutely useless because the low stat scaling it is based of. You better choose some survival skills and get the chance to fight for while longer than choosing battle skills just to deal a tiny 5% more damage just to die in one hit.

    On the other hand I don't see how releasing anti ranged bosses could even help because we all know well asobimo and know that they'll start releasing some utterly annoying bosses with both anti melee and anti ranged skills at some point wich will make em extremely hard or near impossible to defeat for the majority of the players.

    Anyways for the months left till they implement the auto guard/eva I thinking I'll just keep improving my pets because, at least for me, it is the safest way to face those annoying bosses.
     
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    The evasion button doesn't need much of a cool down time.
    Else it'd ruin it's purpose. Other mmos let you mostly spam evade.
    Also, this could mean we're getting faster bosses in the future.
     
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    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    Next patch
    Thanks for your continuouing patronage. Unfortunately we will close all servers and bury game. We will put a 70% discount on orbs and all avatar chests per 11 orbs 11 openings >:)
     
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    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    THATS NOT OOZE THATS RIMIRU SAMA XD
     
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    You can hold guard button?
    Evade while casting?

    Hold Up
    Harvard wants to know your location
    NASA wants to know your location
     
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    Also, this could mean tank rendered useless in future
     
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    Why do ppl keep thinking of a tank as someone who can survive some hits? Tanking is more than survival, tanking is also about aggro management, about protecting other pt members, about keeping the boss busy while your mates can kill it more or less safely.

    That mentality is what IMO took us to this point. There were almost no tanks like two years ago so the devs tried to force us to need em. The bad thing is asobimo devs always take the lazy and easy path when it comes to solutions (learned it by force after having played every asobimo game since Celes Arca back in 2012-2013).
     
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    Tanking is all about being a yandere.
    If a boss has its sight on another player, then that player is dead meat.
     
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    I don't see this as the end of tanks. I see this as the beginning of a beautiful relationship between gun tanks and everybody else.

    My guy will be getting heal and first aid (heck maybe I'll go with a nurse theme??) picking people up off the ground even those with the ability cause this was shown for demo purposes which means we may not get anything as lenient as that. If anything they are giving us sneak peak into a less forgiving future where some will seek support dps hybrids for the really insane stuff or bosses may have a counter for such shenanigans.
     
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    Once upon a Time, they called themselves a tank. :eek:
     

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