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Max Prorate Halberd - Strike Stab build

Discussion in 'Halberd' started by Saphos, Dec 19, 2016.

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  1. Saphos

    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    Sad, but true. I guess I am partially o be blamed as I was one of those who pro,outed spam builds...
     
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    let me try to edit, what r u editing?
     
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    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    Ms. Pink!!!!!!!

    First thing first, Merry X'mas and Happy New Year.

    No, I just log in to test builds and I'll get bored farming and log off. I'm not spending enough time on Toram to be considered active ^^
     
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    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    To change combo tag after Quick Aura from Consec to Swift.

    Please and thank you.
     
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    done!
     
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    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    That, and Quick draw are there for MP recovery only. With cart Up, the halberd passive, Halberds should have no problem criting ^^
     
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    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    And that's why we love you, Ms Pink. Thanks for coming to the rescue ^^
     
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    Well I have a spam build too; pretty satisfied with it :p; mainly because I farm with shout people; (and usually people who don't take your damage output into consideration); so it also really depends on your party too :cool::D
     
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    So you builded Halberd dagger build as strength agi with c- rate just through arm and weapon stat or add gear too?and I dont know about bless for mana saver since the healing amount is based on int/matk the healing should be rather small for the skill points invested while revita is always with you anyway
     
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    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    I was trying not to bring this up, but I saw this coming...

    My gears are Eva gears. Trident, Lightweight dagger, BB garb, Mole eye... nothing that adds Crit rate. I Crit often enough. In fact I have never had a non-Crit Strike Stab. But I missed one. So my conclusion is that Punish ray does bring next skill to max, but max was capped at 95%, not 100. That will explain the miss that I had.

    So for the hardcore players, your weapon stats can focus on Atk% and CDmg. The Crit rate from passives and bonuses alone will be enough to foundation on its own.
     
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    Hmm, very interesting :D; was planning on going all out for the damage on Halberd too, so it's great to see that just maxing the passives will be sufficient for crate :)
     
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    just want to confirm something, are u really using magic:lance ? or its actually magic:javelin ?
     
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    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    Lance. Saves 300mp for swifted Spike dart and Smited Strike stab.

    If you dont mind the flinch, you can use Javelin and consec the Spike dart ^^
     
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    So you use Lance and punish ray in same combo? If so doesn't using that sacrifice alot of DPS on both cast times even if swifted?
     
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    Both spells are not too slow. Again, if you limit yourself to a all physical combo, you will limit your playing field at the bottom (60-90%) of proration spectrum. By alternating your physical skills and magics is the only way to play at the top (200-250%) spectrum.

    @Joughton said it, with fus around, they are likely the ones stealing the benefit of proration from you, but in solo or a good party, the difference is noticeable.

    You can say I am starting a revolution to bring players back from spamming to properly prorating, or you can say I'm fighting a hopeless losing battle. How you look at proration is up to you ^^

    From how I look at it, it's the best gift I can offer to the Toram community as a X'mas present ^^
     
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    I agree, not only is spamming often bad, but against alot of bosses using proration will result in a faster kill, ive experienced it alot on my smasher build where in a party farming minibosses mostly ms i prorate and spammers come and spam like mad, they often dnt do as much dmg to make that spam reasonable so it takes more seconds to kill when i wouldve already killed it in 2 tk :(
     
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    First off welcome back to the world if Toram

    Second off not to derail this but mind telling me how the proration works with skills intermittent in combos? How do the skills prorate each other might I ask, example being if I use a magic skill would the physical skill after be at the 200-250% range or.. ?
     
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    i can say that spamming is good while in the boss fight even miniboss, bcause if you prorate (normal attack) too long until 2 hours, isnt a wasting time ? or a spammer is bad compare prorater (normal attack) ? ._.
    spamming with combo also call prorate while the composition combo is magic and physcal but still its diff if we say prorate with normal attack, and it wasting time ._.
     
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