The Assassin Berserker 2hand & 1hand rampage builds

haha now i understand... i thought i need both formulas for calculating aggros of sneak..

thank you very much sir @Caskadia for explaining it ... appreciated!!

 

Uhm yeah I'm thinking main -aggro set
Boss Gdgarb+leaf cape+spy tali= -45% aggro. And perhaps a second set MP gear or crit gear if there is no need for agro worry(tank or 1hfu in the party).
Also Saphos sensei is the -aggro calculated from your base aggro or from each skills aggro amount on activation? Maybe @Caskadia can help here? Thank you in advance!

 

Nice thanks for this, now we have aggro formula! Didn't even know skill level determined aggro amount, wow thanx!

 

after knowing how much aggro we can create, the next stop is -aggro equips...

how do we compute aggro with -aggro..
*is it per skill cast or after a complete combo??
*or do we have a base aggro to start with??

@Saphos @Caskadia sorry sir/mam for this new question... .. thanks in advance

 

Aggro, both positive and negative, is calculated per skill, not per combo use.

 

so its per skill, like this in example:
i have a 50% -aggro that comes from gears..if i calculated it, will it go like this..

*hardhit skill - 100mp +(10 x 20) - 50%..?(*max lvl)
=300aggro - 50%
=150aggro for hardhit

which is will go the same with sneak right??

cmiiw.... thank you sir @Caskadia you are a big help to me

 

OK ty Cask now I'm sure of this build now , and can complete it

 

I'll work out aggro for one of the combos using that -45%, give me sec haha im at college.

 

Ok @n0saj0023,
Combo- astute-sneak-hard hit-trigger-rampage-impact.
Aggro= 1540 aggro.
With -45% gears: 452 aggro
I'm not sure is that correct?

 

Finally a Rampager never hesitate to cast his final blow... gratz mate @Toramwasmyidea ..

after seeing your 2nd combo, which consume 6cp.. i thought you could add a dps combo that will consume the remaining 4.. in case that you have a super duper messy party ...

although im not a rampager, i apply the concept of sneak in impact brawler.. which help me alot in spamming combos... thanks guyz....

 

i think more or less its true... just something in sneak that makes me feel unease.. something like after computing the total aggro of sneak, do we sum up it with -aggro??

in example.
sneak with -600aggro
-(600) - 45%=
-(600) - 270 = -870???
does -870 aggro pool will consume by nxt skill after sneak..??
just in here, then everything else i think is fine...

 

If aggro is calculated at the beginning of the combo then having a high mp closer is counted in that calculation??? That could be a problem lol

 

uhm yeah perhaps we can add something there another short combo bust- hard hit -Impact(save)-astute(smite). you give me new ideas now hehe uhmmm
I wonder how this combos would be:
c1 -hard hit-sneak(save)-astute(smite)
c2- Assault atk-trigger(save)-impact(cons)-rampage(swift).

also I'm glad you found this thread usefull , goodluck with Ur sneak blaster brawler

 

I'm not sure
I simply did this calculations example:
astute x -45%= 400-180= 220
same for all the rest= answer- 1000.
I think the -45% only for skills Activision aggro. need @Caskadia to confirm if this is correct calculation

 

I don't think it matters where rampage is in the combo, only how much aggro Ur party members are generating and how much stored -aggro will impact if yu get targeted or not

 

I think that's how 1h-fus holds aggro, with a void-Rampage closer. Otherwise, none of Astute, Trigger slash or Tripke kick is terribly aggro-heavy...

 

haha tnx really appreciated it ..

actually im still using the brawler that ninearts found.. im using sneak cause its mp consumption is great for save tag (400).. but didnt know exactly how it works... through this thread, i've learned alot .. so it is very useful for the likes of me..
many thanks to you guyz @Toramwasmyidea, @Caskadia, @Saphos (in no particular order )

 

Sweet now I hav aggro calculations for all skills in the game

 

@Toramwasmyidea I wasn't playing Toram for the last few days since I got bored. But regarding your videos, it doesn't seem like you get the aggro when Rampage is cast. What's the combo that you're using in each of the videos? As what you have mentioned, Rampage is for advanced users and we will need to know whether the aggro they generated is enough for us to cast Rampage. But then again, we still have to know more about Sneak like what @Caskadia mentioned that Sneak special condition only applies to Shot skills which seems to be unfair due to the double MP cost.

Looking at the video, you don't see many Rampage users that can finish the combo and hit that 20th slash. It might be best to focus on Crate instead of CDMG since we'll be going for max STR. Also, have you tried testing War Cry's motion speed?

 

I totally forgot about warcry's motion speed buff. I also heard that godspeed adds a little motion speed to some skills.