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Dual Sword Information and Photos

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by x2c, Nov 2, 2015.

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  1. BK

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    Dw is faster because aspd caps at 1.5k i think, even tho the bar disappears at around 1.2k the intervals will be faster, and if u want it even faster get quick slash in sword skills
     
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    Dex and agi is a great combination true str cn increase stability but eva is definitely useful so i first went str dex but deleted and went dex and agi
     
  3. Occuria

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    As a DW, I've seen that most of my attacks are easily evaded by monster, and you really cant do anything about it even going crit build or not, this doesn't really happen when I'm using 1h or 2h, it really is a let down knowing that they gain more mana per hit than any other class, such a waste.
     
  4. Nope

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    I really liked the job until I took it bossing, this was @ lv45. Idk if my stat build is just crap (50/50 DEX/AGI, all DW passives maxed, 10/10 Twin Slash, Cross Parry, and Charging Slash, BD Main + Adel Sub) but @ BD normal hits are 20-30 dmg each, Twin Slash hits around 200-300, crits for 500 or so, where my 1h dps sword build at the same lv hits normal for 400-500, and astute crits for over 5k.
     
  5. Life

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    with aspd easily cap as dw, is it necessary to put point for quick slash an sword skill?
     
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    Did you add DEX stat in your build? Without DEX, your HIT (= accuracy) will be low, which is the reason monsters are able to evade your attacks.
     
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    As a knuckle user, I can only say that....
    You've got it easy
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  8. BK

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    Intervals on iruna meant the attack animation like doing 2attacks in 1slash, but i dunno if its like that on toram, if u want more DMG/skill DMG ud need to get that line of passives anyway, and more aspd from skills means 1 less equip that focuses on aspd so u could switch it out for something atk based or even hp, we are gunna get alot of skill points anyway but its just a suggestion, i havnt got it yet as i got other things first but ppl often get skills in a diffirent order
     
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    Dual wield skills by themselves are weaker. You have to mix with and leverage on the 1H Blade skills, such as Astute, to increase your crit and damage.
    If you haven't notice, dual wield hits deal less damage per hit, but deal more hits than 1H. Compare the total damage per sequence of blows to see if it's up to your expectations.
     
  10. xyren

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    I think akspd cap doesnt end on 1.5k you may not notice it but if you reach 2k the attack intervals seems to be much fster than before.
     
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    Do u have the quick slash passive or godspeed?, I dunno if godspeed adds aspd or shortens intervals but if not then maybe just quickslash?
     
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    I have both, and my atk is getting faster as i raise my atkspd. its like no more atk delays as i reach 2200 atkspd
     
  13. Tomato

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    I agree on this one, if you'll notice, as ASPD increases, you'll hardly see the interval of dmg. As for my case, 2-3 set of dmg is a chunk of numbers.
    Both on my Brawler and Dual-Wield.
     
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    You damage can go 8 set numbers if you have high atkspd Right? Thats what i meant. :) thanks for agreeing.
     
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    I have a question about Spinning Slash.

    Stats:
    Main: BD Sword ATK 30 | Sub: Adel Sword ATK 46
    ATK 355 | STR 15 | AGI 75 | DEX 75
    Spinning Slash Lv 5

    Is Lv 5 Spinning Slash with the above stats able to kill most of the lv27 Shell Masks?
     
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    I have level 10 spin slash initial hit crits 900-1.2k+ and ticks 77-91+
    Basically 1 time spin slash kill most of it if landed all crit.

    Idk whats the formula on spin slash dmge but againts some bosses if crits initial hit can go around 2.5k+ and ticks 171-200+.maybe tick increase base on target hp.
     
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    Does anyone know the correct situations, methods and combos to use Spinning Slash in?

    As far as I've tested, it is an AOE unsuitable for grinding (1-shot or d.o.t that can kill). It can only be used for very low level mobs farning/leveling as far as I'm aware.
    At 355 ATK + lv 9 Spinning Slash, I can't even wipe out lv27 Shell Masks.

    Now I'm looking at which skill I should learn with 10 SP left: Spinning Slash or Godspeed.
    It's not wise to use an AOE and end up getting surrounded by mobs which still have 1/4 - 1/2 HP bar left.
    Any advice guys?
     
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    So far I don't really see any good situation to this skill.
    I thought maybe spin > sonic blade, but the sonic blade doesn't have the range for it to be effective with spins knocback.
    It hits a lot of mobs so maybe good for with a wall spammer.
     
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    sigh hope this cleers up any misconceptions ....str does NOT add any additional crit DMG its just meerly another stat to add when agi and dex DMG has both been capd for even more dmg.the pecking line or should be ag+dex (crit rate advisable but optional) then str at much later cap lvls as it does not give a good enough boost vs dex atck+2 per point + hit rate and also agi atck+1 +dodge+aspd I'll post a PIC of my new remade stats now look specifically at my flee and atck hope this helps.also I posted a video vs mochello on utube(channel name James need toram)also note if no crit rate was applied the extra 45 points could be used for dex so dex 2×45= 90 more atck =total 500 atck more.(or) with agi 45 more atck=455 atck+50 more dodge=390 dodge not bad.... don't you think... Screenshot_2015-11-04-14-30-11.jpeg Screenshot_2015-11-04-14-29-44.jpeg [ATTCH]
     
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    OK spin atck is useful when the first hit of a combo stops boss movement for egsample if you add a brawler skill like eartbind then land the duels aoe the boss won't suffer the knockback.remember brawler skills can be used with any skill trees its not limited like most skills which have a condition(like must use sword or staff only)
     

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