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What Class/Weapon would you add to the game?

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Nitro, May 19, 2016.

  1. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    my Fairy King is a MD user at lv77 =(^.^)=
    he uses all of the mage skills, so i can also fight bosses with the single target spells.
    i'm waiting for a new fire element MD so that i can cause burn again :3
    my time with Elflame was the best, but it is too weak now...
    next i want Phoenix Wings xD

    special skills for MDs should be explosive aura spells where you attack with your wings :3
    and they could make use of their high atk and speed somehow...
    i heard that MDs have a small bonus on brawler skills, not as much as knuckles though...

    i wish MDs would get an advanced class similar to dualswords.
    it would include skills that can only be used with MDs and most of them would have buff effects that raise speed and evasion :3
     
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  2. Ryzck

    Ryzck Well-Known Member

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    Instead of adding a new weapon asobimo should fix the current weapon system.

    I find it unfair that they brought 4 type of weapon skills to choose at the beginning of the game, but one of the weapon is usable as a sub while others dont

    Did you get it?
    Knuckles.

    For bows/bowguns they had arrows, and the bows itself cannot be used as sub

    1h/2h sword? Can't be used as sub. If you count dual sword skills, it only allows you to use 1h as sub if you wear 1h as main weapon too

    Staff, it's the same. Magic device is beside the point.

    Knuckles. Can be used as a sub with any other main weapons except magic device *cmiiw

    asobimo should make a type of weaker but faster knuckle (called gloves maybe) which is like magic device to staff, respectively. It would decrease damage dealt from knuckle skills
    By 20% but has enhanced motion speed and can be used as sub. The movement set when used as a main is like when fighting barehanded
    So...
    Knuckles : can be equipped as a main weapon only
    Gloves : can be used as a sub and main weapon

    Now that would be fair. If knuckles are allowed to be used as sub, chars with knuckles as main would die out eventually and there would be no main knuckle chars.

    That's my opinion.
     
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  3. Komibii

    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    What about this baby ballista?
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    You might have to set it free after a few years, but it will live a happy life.
     
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  4. Abox

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    Str requirement=1 :p
     
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    Scythe plzz,,I wanna do some heavy-duty gardening to mobs
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  6. TheShadow

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    First, the way she fights is different from what I consider typical orb users. Second, I think you completely ignored (or didn't care to read) my explanation on the variety of uses for magic (it has nothing to do with throwing arrows); bows get attack from STR because you draw (pull on the strings of) the bow. Third, after sleeping for a night, I've come with a different explanation that puts you in the right:

    Let say Toram Online introduced "Dancer Skills". Skills from that skill tree may require One-Hand Swords, Dual Swords, Spears, etc. They could also include orb in the way you have described. Just telling me that "orbs were following her hands" doesn't really tell me anything about how she can move them without primarily using magic, but lets say that anchoring/reinforcement magic was in use (it's not as complicated as it sound, it anchors an object relative to part of the body, could be hands, arms, muscles, joints, etc with being explicitly mentioned). In this case, if orbs are kept in their position via an anchoring spell, then how easy or hard they are to move will indeed depend on the users strength and agility (making you stat distribution method plausible/correct).

    Sorry that you have go along with this (T'was a nice discussion though).
     
  7. TheShadow

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    Dude...I main a Brawler (and in your spoiler, it seems you have one too). Using a knuckle as a sub weapon, it has been said that it gives benefits (based on player test), but there are knuckle skills that aren't at full potential without them equipped as main weapon. Along with the fact that Brawler passives don't work without a knuckle main weapon. Knuckles die out. My main isn't dying out, it's my favorite style to play so, why would I play a less enjoyable build (i ain't a masochist).
     
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    By saying "die out" i meant that ppl who use knuckles as main would be scarce, and ppl would've thought this: "i could use knuckles as sub and use dem skills so why would i use it as main?" - Whereas the other 3 weapon types can't be used as sub, and i think it's unfair...

    But then again it's just my opinion based on my experience in toram:oops:
     
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  9. TheShadow

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    I see where you are coming from. I know in my case I am almost a pure brawler (read my sig and you'll see I have godspeed from the DW for the extra AGI). Apart from Godspeed, I only use Brawler Skills (even maxed out Earthbind which is a good aoe at higher skill levels). My build is full AGI and I use mainly %dodge equips (giving me 772 flee at level 76). So I've found my own way of making a brawler that I won't ever quit playing. I hope others do, too. It is true though, awhile ago, people were thinking that Brawlers were the most pointless class (sadly). Which is why I give props to @NineArts and @makOi and others that have shown what brawlers can do. But this isn't a thread for brawlers, so enough out of me^^
     
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  10. Ardyn

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    First, she enchants her orbs with magic. See how it glows and explodes sometimes? Basically she's just levitating the orb and concentrating her magic inside the orbs to make explosions and lasers thingies. Even Ultear from Fairy tail uses her orbs as physical attacks. I don't see how that's too different. Second, I did read it but I pretty much knew about it already, I think you look at me like some newb to magic bruh. Won't too much str break the bow string? If the reason was as shallow as that then you should be able to understand why I mentioned agi. So how do you explain +atk per agi with md?
     
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    I'm not looking at you at some newb to magic. Ignoring the reference to Fairy Tail, I was just rationalizing why I thought it wouldn't work, and then along the way found an explanation that explains why it does work, as shallow as it sounds (so quit trying to antagonize me, if you are). Yes, a certain amount strength used will break a bow strings (depending on the bow) while a certain amount of strength is needed to pull the strings of a bow (again, depending on the bow), but if you wan't turn Toram into game with hardcore physics concepts, be my guest.

    Then comes the question regarding ATK per AGI with a Magic Device. It would be pretty much the same explanation to rationalize ATK per AGI with orbs. Only this time, it would be would be with swords (or at least they look like swords), instead of orbs. The only issue is...where the heck do those sword-like things come from? Are they all stored within the Magic Device? Probably not if we're talking about physical storage. Then maybe a method that isn't bound by logic (some sort of magical storage method?). Instant perfect alchemy? It may even be an application of physical projection. Who knows? The developers may not have even thought about it (probably thought it looked cool). This is just my explanation (not necessarily a correct one).
     
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    Why cant you enslave a monster as your weapon?
     
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    Cause they might end up like Excalibur
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  16. Ardyn

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    I'm not the one who wants Toram to turn into a hardcore physics thingie, you do. Look at the past posts you made, you're the one who made our discussion complicated while I was just trying to point out something about agi.
     
  17. Kitsuryu

    Kitsuryu I'M RETIRED Elite Member

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    Spears, it'd accurately represent the Lance in the pants ;)
    Whips cuz who doesnt like to get whipped ;)
    (On a serious note, I legit want both)
     
  18. Ianjuro

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    A dragoon would be rad
     
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    Kitsuryu I'M RETIRED Elite Member

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    Tbh, I'd like spear to work like 2h Sword with a shield, but have a custom skill tree for themselves.
    Work of Str, secondary of Vit, and have skills converting Def/HP into attack damage. Saying it now makes it sound really swank
     
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    Ianjuro R>AVALANCHE Epic Member

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    It also sounds like it would heavily rely on pierce.
     
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